Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

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HcDoom
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825 posts since 18 Feb, 2012

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:19 pm

That workstation idea is pretty bad...than why do you have your daw? :/

Krovatin
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56 posts since 10 Mar, 2009

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:37 pm

There are 4 replies for "workstation" idea and no one really understands, what is suggested, unfortunately. "It is bad, bad, I do not know why".

If you do not like the word "workstation", we can use "global pattern" instead.

We already have 4 arpeggiators with presets , mute unmute osc function, and drum seq presets, so do not need more processor power or calculations to just change them. What I suggest - is possibility to change them simultaneously by one button inside one preset. Instead of using very similar 3-4 presets.

"The time it takes to program such a complex structure inside of a synth, you could do 3-4 full songs in any daw."
Do you realise that "such a complex structure" makers and people who doing 3-4 full songs in two hours are different people? Some people are making one preset for weeks, they just like it. And again, it is already done inside the synth, I am suggesting just "multiswitcher"of patterns.

I am not talking about priority here. Just idea to consider.

sircuit
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498 posts since 15 Jul, 2016

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:38 pm

Krovatin wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:37 pm

Do you realise that "such a complex structure" makers and people who doing 3-4 full songs in two hours are different people? Some people are making one preset for weeks, they just like it.
And sadly those same people feed and validate the accelerated rhythm of developing new features for this synth and the result is a continous beta after (almost?) 2 years of development.
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ScoreMan7
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8 posts since 14 Oct, 2018

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Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:41 pm

CustomSamples wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:14 am
Acoustic Guitar Expansion just Released for VPS Avenger !!!! You wont find Authentic Original Guitar Samples like this from VPS
https://www.EastBoundSounds.com/vps-ave ... ic-guitar/
https://youtu.be/UxCgsVaemWA
https://youtu.be/S7mQAjnsq4U
Yessssss. I bought it too. Finally someone doing something besides EDM. Everything Vengeance Sound puts out sounds the same.. like they resample they're own stuff over and over. :hihi:

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CustomSamples
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13 posts since 12 Oct, 2018

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Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:56 pm

Exactly, same thing with they're presets just copy's of copy's with no real alterations. Pure Lazyness and VPS charges so much.

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EnochLight
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964 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Detroit, MI

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:41 pm

CustomSamples wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:14 am
Acoustic Guitar Expansion just Released for VPS Avenger !!!! You wont find Authentic Original Guitar Samples like this from VPS
https://www.EastBoundSounds.com/vps-ave ... ic-guitar/
https://youtu.be/UxCgsVaemWA
https://youtu.be/S7mQAjnsq4U
$60 USD???!!! Eh... um.. NO. I'll wait until they go on sale. These are $30 USD presets IMHO, sorry.
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noiseboyuk
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Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:42 am

I read a lot of these "2 years in beta" comments. Just to say I don't think I've ever had it crash once here on W10 and Cubase 9, its solid and reliable here, CPU use very manageable. Not saying that there can't be problems on other systems, but a bit of context perhaps.
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godly
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784 posts since 22 May, 2013 from Gent, Belgium

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:30 am

EnochLight wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:41 pm
CustomSamples wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:14 am
Acoustic Guitar Expansion just Released for VPS Avenger !!!! You wont find Authentic Original Guitar Samples like this from VPS
https://www.EastBoundSounds.com/vps-ave ... ic-guitar/
https://youtu.be/UxCgsVaemWA
https://youtu.be/S7mQAjnsq4U
$60 USD???!!! Eh... um.. NO. I'll wait until they go on sale. These are $30 USD presets IMHO, sorry.
If it's 100 presets handcrafted, in respect the work and it's worth the price.
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Julien Unison
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Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:57 am

Nope. $60 for it is too expansive.

Even for the VPS ones it's too much.

Make them cheaper ($30 is a good price) and affordable >>>>> sells a lot more of them.

We are not talking about a product whose each sells are manufactured and has a producing cost.
Only the original one has been manufactured.
So if you sells a LOT of them, it's just a total benefit for you.
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MirkoVanHauten
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Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:08 am

noiseboyuk wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:42 am
I read a lot of these "2 years in beta" comments. Just to say I don't think I've ever had it crash once here on W10 and Cubase 9, its solid and reliable here, CPU use very manageable. Not saying that there can't be problems on other systems, but a bit of context perhaps.
Just saying: I've tried the current demo again. Still there's randomly a loud noise burst, most often when switching presets (doesn't matter if quick or in a slow fashion). GUI still randomly opens as black screen or even more rarely goes black after resizing with the indicator in the bottom right. These bugs have been there since the initial release... Also mentioned often in this thread: if you use cubase on windows and have a nvidia graphics card, you're probably good to go because that's the devs environment.

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EastBoundSounds
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53 posts since 16 Jan, 2017

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Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:40 am

godly wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:30 am
EnochLight wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:41 pm
CustomSamples wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:14 am
Acoustic Guitar Expansion just Released for VPS Avenger !!!! You wont find Authentic Original Guitar Samples like this from VPS
https://www.EastBoundSounds.com/vps-ave ... ic-guitar/
https://youtu.be/UxCgsVaemWA
https://youtu.be/S7mQAjnsq4U
$60 USD???!!! Eh... um.. NO. I'll wait until they go on sale. These are $30 USD presets IMHO, sorry.
If it's 100 presets handcrafted, in respect the work and it's worth the price.

Yes they are and the sequence presets especially, have alot of elements going on and options to change, tweak, and implement. This pack will never be on sale for $30 considering the time, gear, resources and love that went into it. vps and ReFX (basicly the same people) copied our guitar and strumming ideas. Actually updated vps right after our chat about it and released theyre own guitar packs under ReFX and its sounds good but they want $80 for it. They put alot of money into they're marketing campaigns and SEO so I understand that their price has to cover all they're expenses but I agree, they're packs are alot.. We would have released the acoustic guitars a year ago but VPS wanted to charge us $1800 for 500 licenses to use they're key file system. We thought about it for awhile and decided we would not pay them that amount of money being that this literally cost them nothing, just the click of a button and they could generate codes and hand them out, maybe a lilttle extra bandwidth usage on they're servers at the most. If they would have gave a more reasonable price they could have potentially started a never ending cycle of us paying them and promoting they're product for free but they are greedy and not good business people. with that being said I will put the Acoustic Guitar Expansion on sale today till the end of December for $45. That is the best offer I can give for this pack.

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EastBoundSounds
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Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:52 am


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EnochLight
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964 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Detroit, MI

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Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:57 am

EastBoundSounds wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:40 am
VPS wanted to charge us $1800 for 500 licenses to use they're key file system. We thought about it for awhile and decided we would not pay them that amount of money being that this literally cost them nothing,
Actually, $1800 USD to key file lock 500 licenses isn't a bad deal - that's $3.60 USD a license to have it protected from piracy (assuming you do sell all 500 licenses, that is).
EastBoundSounds wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:40 am
with that being said I will put the Acoustic Guitar Expansion on sale today till the end of December for $45. That is the best offer I can give for this pack.
$45 USD is reasonable, IMHO.
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SLiC
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2787 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:57 am

MirkoVanHauten wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:08 am
noiseboyuk wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:42 am
I read a lot of these "2 years in beta" comments. Just to say I don't think I've ever had it crash once here on W10 and Cubase 9, its solid and reliable here, CPU use very manageable. Not saying that there can't be problems on other systems, but a bit of context perhaps.
Just saying: I've tried the current demo again. Still there's randomly a loud noise burst, most often when switching presets (doesn't matter if quick or in a slow fashion). GUI still randomly opens as black screen or even more rarely goes black after resizing with the indicator in the bottom right. These bugs have been there since the initial release... Also mentioned often in this thread: if you use cubase on windows and have a nvidia graphics card, you're probably good to go because that's the devs environment.
What spec/system is giving you these problems? It definitely isn't common.
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123 posts since 11 Aug, 2018

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:22 am

Vengeance should take a %, not asking for money's before reel sales. Everybody could win...
After that, it's their business, your business and everybody manage it like he wants.
I hope you will sell a lot of copies of your sound set , you put a lot into it, same for vengeance, nobody fooled nobody. People's buy, don't buy...business goes on !

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