MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

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.jon
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5484 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki

Post Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:01 am

I've been looking for a convolution reverb suitable for sound design type of reverb use, and the Melda offering is currently on sale.

http://www.meldaproduction.com/MMultiBandConvolution

It has tons of features, and the versatile crossover feels like it would offer some pretty unique processing. The included impulse library isn't stellar, but there's other sources for those.

Do you use this plugin, is it stable, do you think it compares well to other options (which are all a lot more expensive) and what do you think about Melda in general?

Thanks.

sinkmusic
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6147 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:05 am

It's a great reverb.
As with all Melda plugins, the learning curve is a bit hard (many features), but when it comes to sound design, it's well worth it :)
You can do a lot with the crossovers, and also using it in serial or parallel (you can run a cab/amp IR in one slot, and one reverb into another slot), and you can also use a short ambience reverb when the input sound is soft, and a lush hall IR when the input signal gets louder.
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Michael L
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2357 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from the End of the World as we Knowit

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:40 am

You can quickly shape the convolution waveform- envelope and eq-- and it has a fast browser with a big gui which helps a lot. If you dont have other Melda, note you must install ALL their plugin presets.

.jon
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5484 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:37 pm

Yeah I'm getting this, the modulation system is extremely well thought out, yet still remains easy to use. I got some insanely impressive and realistic reverbs by modulating the band limit between two different lengths of the same space, and a bit of EQ band modulation. Combining algo verb with IRs also worked great.

.jon
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5484 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:52 am

This was a great purchase, it's like a complete, superpowerful reverb design studio in one practical, easy to use plugin. Multiband side is really made well, modulations go way beyond simple LFOs (envelope follower especially makes convolution less static than many algo verbs), M/S... and moderate CPU use. The included library has lots of useful stuff, but combined with the Samplicity Bricasti true stereo stuff this gives me sound that I thought I'd never afford.

Top stuff, Melda! :tu:

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FrankLaVerne
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194 posts since 30 Sep, 2015 from Germany

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:01 am

Melda does great, feature-rich and CPU-efficient stuff - I use MCompare, MAutoDynamicEQ and their FreeBundle (registered) in every production.

People quite often criticise the UI - but it can be adjusted to taste.

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e@rs
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3602 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:06 am

I use MMultiAnalyzer and MAutoDynamicEq. :love:

Noisia uses MMultibandConvolution too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE5SKynR8QE

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FrankLaVerne
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194 posts since 30 Sep, 2015 from Germany

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Post Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:13 am

e@rs wrote:I use MMultiAnalyzer and MAutoDynamicEq. :love:
HELL yeah, I forgot MMultiAnalyzer, which I did buy not even two days ago, good point!

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Sampleconstruct
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14147 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:13 am

Here is a patch where MMultiBandConvolution is used inside MXXXCore (amongst other things) and I'm using a the harmonizer to tune the IR (the sample of a giant sound sculpture made of springs) up and down (setup chromatically via Bank Mode):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAh3Dk6 ... o&index=54

.jon
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5484 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:59 am

Sampleconstruct that sounds fantastic! MXXX must be insane for sound design.

Also nice inspiration from Noisia, I need to experiment with other stuff than just reverb convolution. I really like the idea of physicality added to synthesized sounds.
FrankLaVerne wrote:Melda does great, feature-rich and CPU-efficient stuff - I use MCompare, MAutoDynamicEQ and their FreeBundle (registered) in every production.

People quite often criticise the UI - but it can be adjusted to taste.
I find nothing wrong with the UI, I use one of the flat presets with tweaked colours, they're clear, resizeable, and compact, among the better UIs to be honest. One day I'll make a Live skin for them.

Inspired by the Convolution purchase, I also upgraded the FreeBundle, would be worth just for the EQ and analyzers (as much as I like Voxengo, Analyzer is better than Span, and the oscilloscope is the best I've seen), but oversampling makes the distortion/saturation and freqshifter plugins awesome.

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plexuss
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2165 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:08 am

Just be careful of the high license transfer fees which are 20% of the regular price. also Melda's transaction vendor levies a further 7-9% on forced currency exchange (eg, the transfer price is quoted in euro but on checkout gets converted to USD with that additional fee added. there appears no way to avoid it). This may not be a concern for you but it's something to keep in mind because it affects what you'd get back if you decide to sell your licenses.

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Sampleconstruct
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14147 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:10 am

.jon wrote:Sampleconstruct that sounds fantastic! MXXX must be insane for sound design.
Thanks - it sure is insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0gDGRq ... 28MV4PVJ2d

Ah_Dziz
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2340 posts since 2 Jul, 2005

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:21 am

It's pretty awesome. I have no problem with the Melda GUIs, but other people seem to. There aren't any plugins out there that are much more flexible.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.

Ah_Dziz
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2340 posts since 2 Jul, 2005

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:23 am

The library is nothing too exciting so you'll need to dig up some good IRs. That's maybe the one downside.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.

Neon Breath
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2890 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Re: MMultibandconvolution and Melda in general?

Post Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:14 am

With convolution reverb, the IR’s are what make it interesting more than the plugin / tool itself. Convolution reverb without interesting IR’s is boring and nothing special. It’s a matter of workflow preference I think. Some plugins are more suitable with the way you work in term of workflow.

I’d rather be more careful and picky with the IR’S than the plugin itself.

I tried many convolution reverbs and they pretty much do all the same thing at the end. The way to reach that is different on each tools though. Personally, I decided to pick and go with a very clean, simple but well-designed one, instead of a bloated complicated one. IR's do the rest of the job... 8)
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