MODO BASS: Get ready for a new level of realism (1.5 update available now)

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jinotsuh
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587 posts since 31 May, 2008 from Australia

Post Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:30 am

Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:56 am We are actually going to have to move MODO BASS 2 to May in order to ensure we get the best version to you, sorry about that.
Pitchforks at the ready . . . :box:

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Harry_HH
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4527 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki

Post Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:30 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:04 am
Harry_HH wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:18 am I have predicted the Orange Vocoder release to the same period. Lets hold our breath…
I predict only one of us will be right! :hihi:
…or none of us.

Race is still on between the IK and Zynaptiq…

Funkybot's Evil Twin
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9612 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:43 am

Harry_HH wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:30 am
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:04 am
Harry_HH wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:18 am I have predicted the Orange Vocoder release to the same period. Lets hold our breath…
I predict only one of us will be right! :hihi:
…or none of us.

Race is still on between the IK and Zynaptiq…
Yes, well, with the date slipping to May, my original prediction does not stand. Would be great if Orange Vocoder suddenly hit out of the blue though I'm not holding my breath.

Ou_Tis
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960 posts since 10 Jul, 2018

Post Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:31 am

Just listened to the Modo Bass 2 demo and... first impression is it doesn't seem very realistic and I don't like it. Strange because I actually like Modo Bass in a mix, especially when it's put through a nice analog emulation chain (PA bass amps etc.).

But maybe that extra time they're taking to improve it will... improve it.

Lack of MPE is also disappointing, though bass is usually monophonic.

Would be good to hear a demo displaying the advantages of physical modeling---pitch bend, playability. Maybe also a few obviously unrealistic ("impossible") playing styles.

Of course the other main advantage is saving RAM when I'm using a bunch of sampled virtual instruments....

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jamcat
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2064 posts since 2 Sep, 2019

Post Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:54 am

Always ignore IK’s demos and presets. Monkeys could do better.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

martinjuenke
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5613 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:03 am

jamcat wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:54 am Always ignore IK’s demos and presets. Monkeys could do better.
Monkeys can do a lot of things better than humans!
Look at the state of our world...

Funkybot's Evil Twin
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Post Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:05 am

Ou_Tis wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:31 am
Lack of MPE is also disappointing, though bass is usually monophonic.
Sure, but it's not at all uncommon for bass player to have an open note ring out, while fretting another note and adding vibrato. I do that way more often than I attempt to play slap bass and they gave us that! If you're emulating any kind of stringed instrument, MPE should be baked right in because it will help you get closer to what real performers can do.

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jamcat
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Post Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:17 am

SteinyFritz wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:07 pm Only Pepe knows...
jamcat wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:03 pm
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:52 pm We don't have a date to share, sorry.
Do you have a year?
But Peter has told us that Pepe has aged about as well as an IK release date.
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donkey tugger
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10471 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:20 am

Ou_Tis wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:31 am
Lack of MPE is also disappointing, though bass is usually monophonic.

Not in my house it isn't.

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koolkeys
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16133 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN

Post Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:33 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:27 pm
koolkeys wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:55 am Upgrade price was a bit steep, but the combo upgrade deal for MODO Bass 2 and MODO Drum 1.5 upgrade, mixed with some Jampoints, made it much better!
What's the combo upgrade deal? Haven't seen that.
It was available in my account under the "Crossgrade/Upgrade" menu item (click on the little person icon in the upper right corner to see it). It only shows things you are eligible for as that upgrade has now disappeared after I bought it.

It was $199 for Modo Bass 2 and Modo Drums 1.5 combo upgrade. Jampoints can take it down further, which is what I did.

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Echoes in the Attic
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Post Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:13 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:05 am
Ou_Tis wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:31 am
Lack of MPE is also disappointing, though bass is usually monophonic.
Sure, but it's not at all uncommon for bass player to have an open note ring out, while fretting another note and adding vibrato. I do that way more often than I attempt to play slap bass and they gave us that! If you're emulating any kind of stringed instrument, MPE should be baked right in because it will help you get closer to what real performers can do.
It's also not just about the polyphony but also having a bigger bend range to emulate the fretless slides, as well as working in separate voice tracking for mono in order to not clash the bend and modulations on note cut-offs (otherwise you can midi messages confusion on the overlapping legato notes).

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Peter - IK Multimedia
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jamcat
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Post Tue May 10, 2022 4:39 pm

So, Thursday, then?
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jinotsuh
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587 posts since 31 May, 2008 from Australia

Post Tue May 10, 2022 5:26 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:27 pm
koolkeys wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:55 am Upgrade price was a bit steep, but the combo upgrade deal for MODO Bass 2 and MODO Drum 1.5 upgrade, mixed with some Jampoints, made it much better!
What's the combo upgrade deal? Haven't seen that.
https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/i ... m15-bundle

benjamind
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1204 posts since 4 Aug, 2004 from Ain't tellin' ya...

Post Thu May 12, 2022 7:55 pm

Still no guitars though. Yeah I'd like to think we'll see em this year or next but for some strange reason I have a gut feeling that I am going to be disappointed and heartbroken.

And what's so tragic about it is that IK prolly won't have anything to do with it. World economics going to shit and all that. It's amazing how the world seems to be against you and all the stars align in really bad ways to ensure you never realise your dreams.

We have literally endless drum samples. Drums are so easy to sample. Guitars are not and an entire collection would prolly wipe out half my disk space whilst still not satisfying or flexible. Enter the solution but it's not here.

Something tells me it won't either. For whatever reason. Probably world economics. I hear things aren't going too well. Oh well. So I have had to put my dreams of owning an ITB rock/jazz band on hold for a long time maybe forever.

I'm breathing again. I won't hold it again. I swear I am already feeling relief because I've been holding my breath for too long. Finally I can put this silly wishful thinking to rest because for whatever reason it ain't gonna happen.
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