Omnisphere keeps losing patches. What are the workarounds ?

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KVRian
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597 posts since 24 Apr, 2008 from USA

Post Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:13 pm

For more than 5 years keep getting the same problem of omnisphere (and sometimes stylus Rmx) losing patches.
Because of this I started saving omnisphere settings within each project as user multis.
But even this doesn't help.
Today I open my latest project, both omnisphere instances are blank, loaded saved multis but they're still blank..
How can't recover my omnisphere instances with correct patches ??What are other options to save Omni instances besides bouncing to audio ?
win10 x64. cubase 10 x64.
gigabyte z390 gaming x, i7-8700k, 32GB,
2x 2TB m.2 nvme SSD, 1x 2TB sata ssd.

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KVRian
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597 posts since 24 Apr, 2008 from USA

Post Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:16 pm

I use cubase 8 64bit. Windows 7.
win10 x64. cubase 10 x64.
gigabyte z390 gaming x, i7-8700k, 32GB,
2x 2TB m.2 nvme SSD, 1x 2TB sata ssd.

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Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:53 am

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zvenx
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11353 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:08 am

I haven't had this happen to me for years....spectrasonics had instructed me to delete some files and let rmx and omnisphere recreate them, and I don't think it has happened since....Alas its been years so I don't remember what file it is.
But then again I have been using windows 10 for awhile too.
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noiseboyuk
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3969 posts since 25 Jan, 2007

Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:24 am

I've never heard of it ever happening, I'd have been on to support years ago to track it down - why on earth have you let it go on so long?

It's very easy to find the user patches in a browser (in a normal world). Find your STEAM library location, then Omnisphere/Settings Library/Patches/User. Just copy and backup. (here's how to find the STEAM folder if you don't know where it is - http://knowledge.timespace.com/index.ph ... re-library )
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zvenx
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11353 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:27 am

Hi Guy, just to amplify the OP to make sure we are speaking about the same thing, which indeed use to happen to me occasionally with rmx and omnisphere.
Is I have a project in Nuendo using these, and one day I open the project and instances of omnisphere/rmx used now show its default settings, almost like I replaced my configured omni/rmx with the patches I choose, volumes panning and someone replaced them with a fresh instance, with no patches assigned to any of the multis.

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zvenx
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11353 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:04 am

I looked up my email archives.. wow I was having that issue in 2008. I think the issue was mostly I was using 32bit OS/host/plugin at the time and it was in major part a memory issue.
I don't think I have had it once since I went 64 bit.
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KVRian
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597 posts since 24 Apr, 2008 from USA

Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:38 pm

zvenx wrote:I haven't had this happen to me for years....spectrasonics had instructed me to delete some files and let rmx and omnisphere recreate them, and I don't think it has happened since....Alas its been years so I don't remember what file it is.
But then again I have been using windows 10 for awhile too.
rsp
thats what they told me to do every time i contacted them about this problem.
but it didnt help recover the multis to which omnisphere lost patches
win10 x64. cubase 10 x64.
gigabyte z390 gaming x, i7-8700k, 32GB,
2x 2TB m.2 nvme SSD, 1x 2TB sata ssd.

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KVRian
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597 posts since 24 Apr, 2008 from USA

Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:44 pm

noiseboyuk wrote:I've never heard of it ever happening, I'd have been on to support years ago to track it down - why on earth have you let it go on so long?

It's very easy to find the user patches in a browser (in a normal world). Find your STEAM library location, then Omnisphere/Settings Library/Patches/User. Just copy and backup. (here's how to find the STEAM folder if you don't know where it is - http://knowledge.timespace.com/index.ph ... re-library )
i didnt use customs sounds.
i picked factory patches and tweaked them.
but saved the omnisphere instances (like i always do) as multis in case it will get recalled blank so i can reload the saved multi and all the patches and settings will apear.
but even reopening saved multi all patches are blank..
win10 x64. cubase 10 x64.
gigabyte z390 gaming x, i7-8700k, 32GB,
2x 2TB m.2 nvme SSD, 1x 2TB sata ssd.

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KVRian
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597 posts since 24 Apr, 2008 from USA

Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:50 pm

another precaution i do is name each midi track going to omnisphere with the patch name. but, sometimes i forgetm and this helps only to recover patches not effects and all the patch tweaks etc
win10 x64. cubase 10 x64.
gigabyte z390 gaming x, i7-8700k, 32GB,
2x 2TB m.2 nvme SSD, 1x 2TB sata ssd.

jamesbernard
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83 posts since 8 Aug, 2015

Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:50 pm

Hiya,
Best to reach out to support for this. They will be able to sort you out quickly.

info@spectrasonics.net

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KVRian
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597 posts since 24 Apr, 2008 from USA

Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:27 pm

jamesbernard wrote:Hiya,
Best to reach out to support for this. They will be able to sort you out quickly.

info@spectrasonics.net
I did almost 10 times. Got tired of it.

thats what they told me to do every time i contacted them about this problem.
but it didnt help recover the multis to which omnisphere lost patches
win10 x64. cubase 10 x64.
gigabyte z390 gaming x, i7-8700k, 32GB,
2x 2TB m.2 nvme SSD, 1x 2TB sata ssd.

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KVRian
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597 posts since 24 Apr, 2008 from USA

Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:28 pm

jamesbernard wrote:Hiya,
Best to reach out to support for this. They will be able to sort you out quickly.

info@spectrasonics.net
If it would of been solved by their support I wouldn't be posting here probably
win10 x64. cubase 10 x64.
gigabyte z390 gaming x, i7-8700k, 32GB,
2x 2TB m.2 nvme SSD, 1x 2TB sata ssd.

noiseboyuk
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3969 posts since 25 Jan, 2007

Post Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:44 pm

I genuinely have no idea what's going wrong with your system - honestly never encountered anything like this nor heard it from anyone else.

What I'd do if you're after a workaround is to routinely back up your instruments and multis folders regularly in the OS, perhaps at the end of every working day. They're both small folders, so shouldn't take long to do. There's nothing magic about them, they're just regular folders storing each patch individually.
http://www.guyrowland.co.uk
http://www.sound-on-screen.com
W10, i7 7820X, 64gb RAM, RME Babyface, 1050ti, PT 2021 Ultimate, Cubase Pro 12
MBP 2015 OSX 10.13.3 2.8ghz 16gb 1TB SSD

Slaapstadseun
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161 posts since 9 Jan, 2011

Post Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:04 am

I have been using Omnisphere (and RMX) for a looong time and this has never happened to me. Never heard of it happening to anyone else.

Patches are not saved 'inside' Omnisphere - they are saved as files on your hard drive. Omnisphere cannot "lose" your patches.

My advice is that you be more careful while saving patches.

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