Instrumental version of new song (electronic pop)

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SparkySpark
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1305 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Skövde, Sweden

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:34 am

Hi,

Though I've been part of KVR for many years, I just uploaded my first tune to Soundcloud and to the Music Café! :tu: I'm very excited really. :)

It's not really the finalized song, as the actual singing remains. In other words, this is just an instrumental version. That said, I think it sounds nice enough to upload.

I could really benefit from some sound advice, like mixing levels and so forth. I use some rather crappy headphones (in fact my cat bit off the sound cable of my other headphones yesterday :lol: ) but hope the levels are somewhat okey. I'd especially like some advice on the mixing apart from bass/treble adjustment (which I presume is a bit off).

The piano is SampleTank Free, everything else is MuLab. The effects on the instruments are from my own MUX, MuT8 (based on existing effects in MuLab). I actually created this track to try out my MUX.

Enjoy (and please be nice :oops: )!

https://soundcloud.com/user-221496479/m ... strumental
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thecontrolcentre
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23088 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Re: Instrumental version of new song (electronic pop)

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:52 am

Mix isn't bad. For me, the piano is a little too loud, and Id like some modulation of some sort on the bass synth, which sounds a bit "stiff" and repetitive. Would be interested to hear it with vocals when its finished.

SparkySpark
KVRian
1305 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Skövde, Sweden

Re: Instrumental version of new song (electronic pop)

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:23 am

thecontrolcentre wrote:Mix isn't bad. For me, the piano is a little too loud, and Id like some modulation of some sort on the bass synth, which sounds a bit "stiff" and repetitive. Would be interested to hear it with vocals when its finished.
Thanks! Actually there are three bass synths on top of each other (one sub, one FM-ish and one pluck), but I'll continue working on them. :) I'll turn down the piano a bit. At the moment it's repeated more than it will be in the end (so it won't be as repetitive).

Thanks again!

Petter
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SparkySpark
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Re: Instrumental version of new song (electronic pop)

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:23 am

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SparkySpark
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Re: Instrumental version of new song (electronic pop)

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:23 am

(repeated post)
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thecontrolcentre
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23088 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Re: Instrumental version of new song (electronic pop)

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:27 am

SparkySpark wrote:
thecontrolcentre wrote:Mix isn't bad. For me, the piano is a little too loud, and Id like some modulation of some sort on the bass synth, which sounds a bit "stiff" and repetitive. Would be interested to hear it with vocals when its finished.
Thanks! Actually there are three bass synths on top of each other (one sub, one FM-ish and one pluck), but I'll continue working on them. :) I'll turn down the piano a bit. At the moment it's repeated more than it will be in the end (so it won't be as repetitive).

Thanks again!

Petter
Should mention ... I was listening in my phone, so couldn't hear the sub. Will listen on my monitors later.

SparkySpark
KVRian
1305 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Skövde, Sweden

Re: Instrumental version of new song (electronic pop)

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:32 am

Ah - on the phone! :)

Well, my sub isn't perhaps very low, but perhaps it's a bit more body than what you get from the phone anyway. :)

Thanks!
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thecontrolcentre
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23088 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Re: Instrumental version of new song (electronic pop)

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:16 pm

SparkySpark wrote:Ah - on the phone! :)

Well, my sub isn't perhaps very low, but perhaps it's a bit more body than what you get from the phone anyway. :)

Thanks!
Just had a listen on my monitors. The balance between the instruments is pretty good. The sub is well placed. I'd like the mix to be "wider" or more stereoized maybe, and some movement/modulation on the plucked bass would be nice. It needs a vocal ... or some kind of melody or "ear candy".

SparkySpark
KVRian
1305 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Skövde, Sweden

Re: Instrumental version of new song (electronic pop)

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:45 pm

Hi again , many thanks!

Yes the vocals will be a nice counterpoint but I will need to work more on the lyrics before I can record it.

Then the arrangement will differ as well to form more of a normal song.

By the way, a reason why the trance chords sound so fat is that I couldn't decide on the chord progression so there are actually two progressions running at once! There's a first time for everything! :lol:

I will take your advice on the bassline and stereo spread. (The backup vocals will probably help too.)

Thanks again for taking the time!
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layzer
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5639 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Re: Instrumental version of new song (electronic pop)

Post Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:10 pm

enjoyed this :tu:
id cut back a bit on the bass reverb. ;)
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SparkySpark
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1305 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Skövde, Sweden

Re: Instrumental version of new song (electronic pop)

Post Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:40 am

layzer wrote:enjoyed this :tu:
id cut back a bit on the bass reverb. ;)
Thanks!

I came to same conclusion a day ago and changed it. :wink:

Really like your setup by the way - almost everything is a HW or SW old synth that I used back in the days. I also own EXT2, which is really a predecessor to MuLab, in my opinion. I recall in EXT1, when the first thing one needed to do was drag in a sequencer :!: module to the modular area!

In the EnergyXT forum on KVR, there is now a great song published, plus a superb video explaining how it was done using EXT2 and VSTs.
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