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fastlanephil
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586 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Post Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:56 pm

This one's sort of a Bolero except it's in 4/4 and a traditional Bolero is in 3/4(think Ravel). I'm using pretty much a 50/50 mix of orchestral and synthetic instruments.


https://soundcloud.com/fastlanephil/bolero

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Allomerus
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2049 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia

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Post Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:10 pm

There is something about Bolero that keeps me coming back to it. I did a version with Volcas. :)

This is a nicely done bolero with a happy vibe rather than dramatic. Great to chill out to on a Sunday Afternoon in the shade... Aaah! Now I just need a beer.

Well done!
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seismic1
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9013 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK

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Post Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:18 pm

This one got me thinking about the various forms of Bolero (as recounted by Wikipedia). I checked out some Vietnamese examples that I was able to find on the internet, and realised that a lot of Thai popular music from 30-40 years ago is very similar in style to this (not really surprising, given their geographical proximity), although not referred to as "Bolero".

This is a pleasant, and generally uplifting piece of music. I just wish I could share Allomerus' current meteorological circumstances to experience it. It's currently -1 outside.


Good work :)

JKillz
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181 posts since 30 Dec, 2017 from USA

Re: Bolero

Post Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:36 pm

This was really nice, I enjoyed the mix of the modern with the classical. Always refreshing to hear the two mixed together as well as this :)

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Allomerus
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2049 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia

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Post Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:52 pm

seismic1 wrote:This one got me thinking about the various forms of Bolero (as recounted by Wikipedia). I checked out some Vietnamese examples that I was able to find on the internet, and realised that a lot of Thai popular music from 30-40 years ago is very similar in style to this (not really surprising, given their geographical proximity), although not referred to as "Bolero".

This is a pleasant, and generally uplifting piece of music. I just wish I could share Allomerus' current meteorological circumstances to experience it. It's currently -1 outside.


Good work :)
You can have the 36C we have today if you want! ;)
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Frantz
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4812 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

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Post Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:08 pm

The piece has a melodic, quaint charm. Other than Ravel, I know nothing about Boleros so I can't say much about that aspect.

The drums seem like white noise rather than a proper kit. There are some timing fluctuations in the drums once again.

(It is currently -1 C / 31 F where I am at. :( )

sjm
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1701 posts since 17 Apr, 2004

Re: Bolero

Post Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:02 pm

I enjoyed it despite the snow. Made me think of the background music for some cutesy 2D non-violent casual game. Extremely inoffensive (which was my overall feeling) is really well suited for that kind of thing.

Don't otherwise feel qualified to comment.
Voted KVR's resident drunk Robert Smith impersonator (thanks Frantz!)

experimental.crow
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5506 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from The Druid Hills

Re: Bolero

Post Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:01 pm

in your lead-in post , you allude to Ravel ...

Ravels' Bolero is particularly distinguished by a soft , slow build up
w/ gradual introduction of elements as the theme is repeated , and the volume and
intensity builds to its majestic conclusion .

Your offering seems to bypass that approach , and jumps into the pool
waist deep ... that approach loses me , as i came away w/ the impression
that i had heard everything on offer after the first pass ...
that , and the 4/4 left me unenthused ...

that being said , you certainly have the motifs required to revise the piece
and offer a differing structure for our regard ...
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layzer
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5544 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

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Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:03 am

it was a refreshing change of the cafe usual. a pleasant listen.
sometimes jagged in the melody/perc sync, but just slightly.
enjoyed :tu:
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fastlanephil
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586 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Bolero

Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:55 pm

Allomerus wrote:There is something about Bolero that keeps me coming back to it. I did a version with Volcas. :)

This is a nicely done bolero with a happy vibe rather than dramatic. Great to chill out to on a Sunday Afternoon in the shade... Aaah! Now I just need a beer.

Well done!
Thanks Allomerus!

I’m late responding as I’ve been sick off and on with that stinking flu for almost two weeks.

Glad you enjoyed it.

fastlanephil
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586 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Bolero

Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:03 pm

seismic1 wrote:This one got me thinking about the various forms of Bolero (as recounted by Wikipedia). I checked out some Vietnamese examples that I was able to find on the internet, and realised that a lot of Thai popular music from 30-40 years ago is very similar in style to this (not really surprising, given their geographical proximity), although not referred to as "Bolero".

This is a pleasant, and generally uplifting piece of music. I just wish I could share Allomerus' current meteorological circumstances to experience it. It's currently -1 outside.


Good work :)
I believe the Bolero was originally a slow Spanish dance using guitar. Someone from the Netherlands said he danced to 4/4 Boleros in the social halls as a young man many years ago. Probably using the accordion.

Thanks for the good words siesmic1.

fastlanephil
KVRian
586 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Bolero

Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:06 pm

JKillz wrote:This was really nice, I enjoyed the mix of the modern with the classical. Always refreshing to hear the two mixed together as well as this :)
I’m glad you enjoyed it JKillz!

fastlanephil
KVRian
586 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Bolero

Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:17 pm

Frantz wrote:The piece has a melodic, quaint charm. Other than Ravel, I know nothing about Boleros so I can't say much about that aspect.

The drums seem like white noise rather than a proper kit. There are some timing fluctuations in the drums once again.

(It is currently -1 C / 31 F where I am at. :( )
Hi Frantz.

Well the drums are probably a bit much as they are from Soundiron but my other snares were not full enough. I worked on tightening up the rhythm but I left some loseness. This one is more a demo for an envisioned live performance than a finished song.

fastlanephil
KVRian
586 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Bolero

Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:22 pm

sjm wrote:I enjoyed it despite the snow. Made me think of the background music for some cutesy 2D non-violent casual game. Extremely inoffensive (which was my overall feeling) is really well suited for that kind of thing.

Don't otherwise feel qualified to comment.
That’s a different take sjm.

fastlanephil
KVRian
586 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Bolero

Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:29 pm

experimental.crow wrote:in your lead-in post , you allude to Ravel ...

Ravels' Bolero is particularly distinguished by a soft , slow build up
w/ gradual introduction of elements as the theme is repeated , and hthe volume and
intensity builds to its majestic conclusion .

Your offering seems to bypass that approach , and jumps into the pool
waist deep ... that approach loses me , as i came away w/ the impression
that i had heard everything on offer after the first pass ...
that , and the 4/4 left me unenthused ...

that being said , you certainly have the motifs required to revise the piece
and offer a differing structure for our regard ...
I just mentioned Ravel’s Bolero as a rough reference. Revel’s Bolero was probably a little monotonous structurly. His self imposed challenge was to provide interest for as long as possible using the instruments of the orchestra to provide the changes needed to maintain that interest. His experiment was a success. It’s not something one is encouraged to emulate in the schools or so I’ve heard.

I’ve already run this by some neo classical and soundtrack composers on another forum and I think it is basically done except for some slight modifications.

There is also Beck’s Bolero from Jeff Beck’s 1968 Truth album which was written by his friend Jimmy Page. There is a lot of tension release in the middle of this Bolero with a rock out 4/4 and then the energy is upped for a short repeat of the first part and then a finale of sorts.

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