ASIOALL alternative?

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zoogoo
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432 posts since 21 Feb, 2006

Post Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:32 pm

Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?

is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?

thanks

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fmr
KVRAF
7601 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:48 pm

Buy an audio interface with true ASIO drivers. It's the best solution. Anything else is just a waste of time.
Fernando (FMR)

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KVRian
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Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:51 pm

Why are you not using an audio interface with it's dedicated ASIO drivers ? Also running multiple instances of a daw, isn't generally recommended or to be practical, and it typically isn't even possible with most modern daws.
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fluffy_little_something
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12022 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:55 pm

I guess the problem is having several instances of ASIO4ALL running at the same time. In my case Imitone and my DAW at the same time doesn't work well.

That said, as long as I use ASIO4ALL only with my DAW, it seems very robust, no problems at all.

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WOK
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2093 posts since 24 Feb, 2004 from Germany

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:10 pm

zoogoo wrote:Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?
is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?
thanks
Asio in general doesn't support multi-access by different programs at the same time.....
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VariKusBrainZ
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8128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:13 pm

WOK wrote:
zoogoo wrote:Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?
is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?
thanks
Asio in general doesn't support multi-access by different programs at the same time.....

Not true, many soundcard drivers offer multi client access.
RME for one has offered it for a long time.

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Image-Line
KVRian
923 posts since 2 Dec, 2010 from Belgium, EU.

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:08 pm

zoogoo wrote:Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?

is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?

thanks
Install FL Studio, and try FL Studio ASIO.

https://www.image-line.com/downloads/fl ... nload.html

After installing FL Studio it should show as a driver option in energyXT. Its multi-client, so should be good for multiple instances. Manually delete the FL Studio install folder when you are done.

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zoogoo
KVRist
432 posts since 21 Feb, 2006

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:10 pm

i have an m-audio 1010lt pci. its a good card but i cant run more then 1 daw at a time. with the asioall, it allows you to merge sound drivers , but it doesnt work well, crashes a lot. should i try installing a second pci card? i actually do have an extra.

what now folks?

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fmr
KVRAF
7601 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:16 am

You still didn't explain why do you want several instances of EnergyXT open. What exactly is your workflow, and what do you need that for?
Fernando (FMR)

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fluffy_little_something
KVRAF
12022 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:08 am

VariKusBrainZ wrote:
WOK wrote:
zoogoo wrote:Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?
is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?
thanks
Asio in general doesn't support multi-access by different programs at the same time.....

Not true, many soundcard drivers offer multi client access.
RME for one has offered it for a long time.
The driver determines the settings the hardware uses, right? So how can one and the same hardware use two different, say, sampling rates at the same time if two applications are set up like that?

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thecontrolcentre
KVRAF
23005 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:28 am

I'm using the NI audio driver with my interface. It allows me to run Live and Sound Forge at the same time. I sometimes run a media player alongside my CD writing software too.

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VariKusBrainZ
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8128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:03 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
WOK wrote:
zoogoo wrote:Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?
is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?
thanks
Asio in general doesn't support multi-access by different programs at the same time.....

Not true, many soundcard drivers offer multi client access.
RME for one has offered it for a long time.
The driver determines the settings the hardware uses, right? So how can one and the same hardware use two different, say, sampling rates at the same time if two applications are set up like that?
They cant, must be same sample rate and buffer

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fluffy_little_something
KVRAF
12022 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:06 am

OK, so maybe the problems would go away if all instances used identical settings :)

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WOK
KVRAF
2093 posts since 24 Feb, 2004 from Germany

Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:58 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:
WOK wrote:Asio in general doesn't support multi-access by different programs at the same time.....
Not true, many soundcard drivers offer multi client access.
RME for one has offered it for a long time.
Yes, i remembered wrong. Must be "most vendors drivers don't allow multi client access".
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