Orb Composer - Generative music app

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KVRAF
4306 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw

Post Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:15 am

I stumbled upon some interesting product, coming in april 2018. It is a generative composer tool that gives user decent control over musical material. It is also said to be able to work on given MIDI melodies, though didn't see demonstration of this feature yet. Orb Composer only outputs MIDI and generates no sounds on its own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWnZ55lk-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HiFF3yFBKo

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For someone like me, who's not trained musican, this seems to be very interesting. Looking forward to demo and more hands-on use cases.
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KVRAF
3794 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit

Post Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:57 am

Thanks DJ. I am always curious about the ways programmers think systematically about composing. This one has a clear decision-making structure, with unique features and a target market:
"Turning an idea into a composition will not take weeks of work anymore, only the most pleasant part of composition will remain."
They certainly put a lot of work into this!
BTW, you can preorder: Artist (349€) and Pro (649€) https://www.orb-composer.com
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KVRAF
1760 posts since 17 Jun, 2005

Post Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:28 am

I agree, it seems a lot of thought went into this one.

(It's just amazing though that in the overview walkthrough video, a tad under 9 minutes in length, you have to wait until the last 20 seconds or so, to hear any bit of what the orchestration actually sounds like :D hahah.)

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KVRAF
3794 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit

Post Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:32 am

In the second one, they try lots of different phrases. I watched that one first to see the workflow.
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KVRAF
32946 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:40 am

Interesting but

Hideously expensive

Developer can't spell 'routing' :)

KVRAF
6659 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from the bridge of sighs

Post Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:46 am

aMUSEd wrote:Interesting but

Hideously expensive

Developer can't spell 'routing' :)
yikes !!!
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KVRian
945 posts since 19 Jun, 2006 from Berlin, Germany

Post Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:42 pm

Orb Composer somewhat reminds me of "Band in a Box"
I think one does not have detailed control over what music it will spit out. You can set up an orchestration/instrumentation, tempo and chord progression and sketch the flow of excitement and relaxation... that's it.
Compared to other similar solutions like Synfire, Orb Composer isn't that expensive.

KVRist
262 posts since 12 Nov, 2017

Post Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:51 pm

HiEnergy wrote:Orb Composer somewhat reminds me of "Band in a Box"

Compared to other similar solutions like Synfire, Orb Composer isn't that expensive.

It does look like a nice program, but it's reminds me more of "Major Sketch Pad" or "Chord Sketcher" by Sonic Cat. BIAB gives you way more control over the midi and audio than this does.

The price is way too high, because BIAB gives you recordings of real artist, and this thing only generates midi notes, yet I can get similar programs for far less money.

I could be wrong and the program turns out to be very worth the price, but that's about the only thing I'm not liking about it.

Mind you this is coming from a person who thought Rapid Composer cost too much.

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KVRAF

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4306 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw

Post Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:01 am

Well, the price is very high for sure. I'd grab it on 50% discount, though :wink:

As yet, looking forward to demo :help:
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KVRist
81 posts since 9 Sep, 2004 from Toronto

Post Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:54 am

There is 30 percent off over at Gearslutz, look in the Products Coming Soon forum for the code. I bought the Artist one. "Why not?" I said "as far as I know I'll only live once". Can't wait to try it.
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KVRian
945 posts since 19 Jun, 2006 from Berlin, Germany

Post Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:02 am

Yes, I've pre-ordered Orb Composer and done a video on my first impression with it!
There's no narration and no explanation - just me trying to coax some chamber music for three instruments out of it - which I finally succeed in. :)

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KVRian
945 posts since 19 Jun, 2006 from Berlin, Germany

Post Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:56 pm

My latest video is about connecting Orb Composer to Ableton Live and having it compose a short piece of piano music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbZy60z ... cA&index=1

This video contains spoken explanation as well as English and German subtitles.
Please excuse the rather bad quality of my voice.

Have fun watching!

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KVRAF
2715 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest

Post Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:53 am

Danm it. I was expecting an app by The Orb that creates endless variations of Little Fluffy Clouds :lol:

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KVRian
945 posts since 19 Jun, 2006 from Berlin, Germany

Post Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:09 am

I've done another screencast on Orb Composer.
This time Orb Composer composes a piano music tune with little user interaction. I've not interfered with most of its musical choices.

The resulting MIDI gets imported into Reaper and played back with keyboard and pianoroll visible so you can see what Orb Composer's compositions might look and sound like.

KVRAF
4234 posts since 17 Aug, 2004

Post Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:12 am

HiEnergy wrote:My latest video is about connecting Orb Composer to Ableton Live and having it compose a short piece of piano music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbZy60z ... cA&index=1

This video contains spoken explanation as well as English and German subtitles.
Please excuse the rather bad quality of my voice.

Have fun watching!
Great video thanks.

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