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fastlanephil
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632 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Post Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:24 pm

Electronic patches,trumpets and strings. New Version Below.

https://soundcloud.com/fastlanephil/robotopia
Last edited by fastlanephil on Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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layzer
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5734 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Re: Robotopia

Post Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:06 am

love the atmo, nice mix, however you continue to have issues with timing in some places.
i suggest digging deep into precision beat slicing of any rhythm loops you may be using and time stretching them to fit the tempo. but other than that, enjoyed everything else :tu:
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seismic1
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9063 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK

Re: Robotopia

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:19 am

Overall, I enjoyed this. The synths worked well together and I liked the brass sounds when they joined in. Like layzer, I had a few problems getting my head around the timing. It sounded a little "off", although I'm not yet sure how much of an issue that was for me.

Good work :)

ChamMusic
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893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Re: Robotopia

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:35 am

layzer wrote:love the atmo, nice mix, however you continue to have issues with timing in some places.
i suggest digging deep into precision beat slicing of any rhythm loops you may be using and time stretching them to fit the tempo. but other than that, enjoyed everything else :tu:
Agreed..100%!

Other quick points from me:

I would've liked the brass 'moments' to be a bit more upfront at times...bit buried in the mix?

I also wanted it all to rise to even greater heights.

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Frantz
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4841 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Re: Robotopia

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:17 pm

Very cool composition. I agree with the comments regarding timing issues and the brass being buried.

sjm
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1734 posts since 17 Apr, 2004

Re: Robotopia

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:44 pm

+1: nice composition, something is slightly off with the timing. Sounds to me like you aren't aligned correctly and need to nudge tracks forwards/backwards.
Voted KVR's resident drunk Robert Smith impersonator (thanks Frantz!)

fastlanephil
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632 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Robotopia

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:04 pm

layzer wrote:love the atmo, nice mix, however you continue to have issues with timing in some places.
i suggest digging deep into precision beat slicing of any rhythm loops you may be using and time stretching them to fit the tempo. but other than that, enjoyed everything else :tu:
Yes, there is some disjointed rhythm in this. I have the rythmn loops lined up but that one sounds a bit off beat. I thought maybe it could add to the some what chaotic atmosphere but it is kind of annoying Isn’t it. :hihi: I might just chuck that patch or replace it.

Thanks for the constructive comments lazer.

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fastlanephil
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632 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Robotopia

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:23 pm

seismic1 wrote:Overall, I enjoyed this. The synths worked well together and I liked the brass sounds when they joined in. Like layzer, I had a few problems getting my head around the timing. It sounded a little "off", although I'm not yet sure how much of an issue that was for me.

Good work :)
Glad you enjoyed this seismic.

I think electronic musicians or electronic music listeners brains kind of get rewired and resensitized about timing. That was a hurtle for me as I developed a real liking for the genre and the also the unnatural sounds. Most people of my generation find it pretty alien as something they would actually enjoy listening to. Not just as an occasional soundtrack that they are not actually listening to.

I’m not making excuses for the off beat but just making an observation.

fastlanephil
KVRian
632 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Robotopia

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:33 pm

ChamMusic wrote:
layzer wrote:love the atmo, nice mix, however you continue to have issues with timing in some places.
i suggest digging deep into precision beat slicing of any rhythm loops you @may be using and time stretching them to fit the tempo. but other than that, enjoyed everything else :tu:
Agreed..100%!

Other quick points from me:

I would've liked the brass 'moments' to be a bit more upfront at times...bit buried in the mix?

I also wanted it all to rise to even greater heights.
Thanks for commenting ChamMusic.

Yeah, I cut back on the trumpets quite a bit while mixing this. Maybe the last brass notes in those sections should be a little more aggressive. That might do it. I forgot to mention that there is also a F.Horns track in those two sections.

fastlanephil
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632 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Robotopia

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:34 pm

Frantz wrote:Very cool composition. I agree with the comments regarding timing issues and the brass being buried.
Thanks Frantz!

fastlanephil
KVRian
632 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Robotopia

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:36 pm

sjm wrote:+1: nice composition, something is slightly off with the timing. Sounds to me like you aren't aligned correctly and need to nudge tracks forwards/backwards.
Pretty much a group consensus. :wink:

I appreciate your commenting sjm.

fastlanephil
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632 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Robotopia

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:28 pm

Here's Robotopia Rev 1

Tossed that rhythm patch that didn't really fit in and edited and remixed the Trumpets.

https://soundcloud.com/fastlanephil/robotopia-rev2

fastlanephil
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632 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Robotopia

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:29 pm

Oops.
Last edited by fastlanephil on Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.

fastlanephil
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632 posts since 3 Jan, 2016

Re: Robotopia

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:29 pm

Oops.

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Allomerus
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2099 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia

Re: Robotopia

Post Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:54 am

Sounds very cool Phil.
Enjoying the synths, and the harmonic shifts...
Drums sound great too! I like the offbeatedness of them.
Trumpets are good too!
Well done!
Cheers,
John
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