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Postby srv-musikmaker; Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:25 am New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

Hey everyone,

How's it goin! I just finished uploading this little demo. I would really appreciate it if you guys give it a listen. It would be even better if I can get some feedback/suggestions. I am really excited about this. Thank you :phones:


https://soundcloud.com/srv-musicmaker/m ... elightdemo

Update-

I have worked on the track a bit more. Here is the result. Do leave your thoughts/observations about this :phones:

https://soundcloud.com/srv-musicmaker/m ... ended-demo

Update -

Hey everyone,

I am done (I hope I am done) working on this song. So here's the final version of it. Do share your feedback regarding this :tu:

https://soundcloud.com/srv-musicmaker/m ... iginal-mix
Last edited by srv-musikmaker on Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:15 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Postby ChamMusic; Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:21 am Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

Some interesting grooves in there and quite well produced, but it's all a little basic at the moment:

First half is a repeated Saz loop with no variation / editing layered with some risers, synth sounds + a basic drum beat.

Second half is a different repeated Saz loop with no variation / editing layered in similar ways.

As it stands it is quite atmospheric on a quick listen , but fails to grab me for very long as there is no serious development of the basic ideas.

Overall: It's quite catchy at first, but needs more editing and development of the various musical elements:

1) Edit / mash up those loops in some way?
2) Bring in some more varied background harmonies / chords?
3) Some rippling arpeggios?
4) Even bigger textures in some sections - more layers for a bigger sound?
5) A Section without the Saz loops?
6) Fragments of the Saz loops played on other sounds / synths?
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Postby srv-musikmaker; Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:26 pm Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

Hey ChamMusic,

Thanks a lot for taking time out and giving it a listen, and thanks a ton for the feedback. I will take your ideas into consideration as I find them interesting.
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Postby Bansaw; Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:27 pm Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

Hi, good job, some good ideas in there.
The "Saz" or whatever ethnic plucked string that is does get lost between 1:32-1:52 so it needs to be mixed better.
The start is good.
Maybe some "call and response" might add significant interest to it.
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Postby srv-musikmaker; Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:08 pm Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

Bansaw wrote:Hi, good job, some good ideas in there.
The "Saz" or whatever ethnic plucked string that is does get lost between 1:32-1:52 so it needs to be mixed better.
The start is good.
Maybe some "call and response" might add significant interest to it.



Hey Bansaw, thanks for the feedback. I have just uploaded another demo version of the track. Please do listen to it and share your views. I would be really grateful. :)

The plucked instrument at the start is known as a 'Kanun'. 8)
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Postby Cruba; Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:27 am Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

Hmmmm the sounds itself are middle east maybe, but the arrangement sounds more middleaged. The song all in all works anyways, but the bassdrum is not enough enbedded in the overall sound in my ears.
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Postby srv-musikmaker; Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:25 pm Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

Cruba wrote:Hmmmm the sounds itself are middle east maybe, but the arrangement sounds more middleaged. The song all in all works anyways, but the bassdrum is not enough enbedded in the overall sound in my ears.


Thanks for the feedback. What do you mean that the arrangment sounds more 'middleaged' ?
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Postby Cruba; Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:18 am Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

The patterns...
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Postby Bansaw; Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:01 am Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

srv-musikmaker wrote:Hey Bansaw, thanks for the feedback. I have just uploaded another demo version of the track. Please do listen to it and share your views. I would be really grateful. :)
The plucked instrument at the start is known as a 'Kanun'. 8)

That updated mix is significantly better then the 1st. Well done.
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Postby srv-musikmaker; Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:46 pm Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

Bansaw wrote:
srv-musikmaker wrote:Hey Bansaw, thanks for the feedback. I have just uploaded another demo version of the track. Please do listen to it and share your views. I would be really grateful. :)
The plucked instrument at the start is known as a 'Kanun'. 8)

That updated mix is significantly better then the 1st. Well done.


Thanks a lot :)
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Postby srv-musikmaker; Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:47 pm Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

Cruba wrote:The patterns...


I understand what you mean :tu:
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Postby sjm; Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:51 am Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

Cruba wrote:The song all in all works anyways, but the bassdrum is not enough embedded in the overall sound in my ears.

I'd have to agree. I think you need to make a decision about what the focus of the track is. I personally thinks that it's the melodic side of things, with the use of ethnic instruments to provide variety. The beat is secondary, and really just a platform for the rest to build on.

At the beginning in particular, I felt the kick was playing a different song. Things really open up at 1:05, with the nice melodic interplay, and the rhythmic introduction of the stabs with delay.

I find the beat overall works better later, once you have those filtered elements going "zap", than when it is kick-centric.

So maybe think about shifting some of the rhythmic heavy lifting away from the kick and using other elements instead. Or even throw in some ethnic percussion.

There are also one or two notes that are questionable in context with what else is playing at the same time. It's just one or two here and there at the end of a couple of phrases.

Overall I quite like the track, with my favourite part most definitely around 1:05. If you can capture that vibe/spirit over the course of the entire track, you'll have a winner.
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Postby srv-musikmaker; Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:23 pm Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

sjm wrote:
Cruba wrote:The song all in all works anyways, but the bassdrum is not enough embedded in the overall sound in my ears.

I'd have to agree. I think you need to make a decision about what the focus of the track is. I personally thinks that it's the melodic side of things, with the use of ethnic instruments to provide variety. The beat is secondary, and really just a platform for the rest to build on.

At the beginning in particular, I felt the kick was playing a different song. Things really open up at 1:05, with the nice melodic interplay, and the rhythmic introduction of the stabs with delay.

I find the beat overall works better later, once you have those filtered elements going "zap", than when it is kick-centric.

So maybe think about shifting some of the rhythmic heavy lifting away from the kick and using other elements instead. Or even throw in some ethnic percussion.

There are also one or two notes that are questionable in context with what else is playing at the same time. It's just one or two here and there at the end of a couple of phrases.

Overall I quite like the track, with my favourite part most definitely around 1:05. If you can capture that vibe/spirit over the course of the entire track, you'll have a winner.



Hey sjm, thanks for listening to the song and I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

I like the punchy kick (even if it is a bit intrusive). It gives just a bit of aggressiveness/life amidst the melodic landscape.

I think your ideas regarding possible improvements/additions are good, though I am not ken on adding any more elements particularly (had thought about some darbuka in th nitial stages) :D

As you can probably tell, the production quality might be a little rusty. After all, I have been on a 3 year break from making electronic music. :tu:
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Postby TrekStar; Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:48 am Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

listened to the 3d edit and enjoyed it! a good mix between ethno and modern electronic Music. I liked the hard sidechain pumping. :-) only nitpick: the plucked Instrument in the beginning sounds static, sampled to my ears. the "ta-da-da's" string picks too equal. subtle changes in volume and/or attack would be cool.
anyway thumbs up!
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Postby srv-musikmaker; Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:42 pm Re: New demo with Turkish/middle eastern influences.

TrekStar wrote:listened to the 3d edit and enjoyed it! a good mix between ethno and modern electronic Music. I liked the hard sidechain pumping. :-) only nitpick: the plucked Instrument in the beginning sounds static, sampled to my ears. the "ta-da-da's" string picks too equal. subtle changes in volume and/or attack would be cool.
anyway thumbs up!
wolf


Hey TrekStar, I am really glad that you liked my effort :) Thank you for your observations/suggestions :tu:
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