Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

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Mattt12345
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66 posts since 2 Feb, 2018

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:11 am

Hey ho,

Because of a special offer i give Battery 4 a try. I do not understand why i should spend 100 bucks for an ,,outdated´´ Programm. I don´t find good Videos about Battery 4 or wow effect on working with it.

am i wrong? Did i miss something or is Battery out to date?

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jacqueslacouth
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848 posts since 18 Nov, 2004

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:35 am

Why is it out of date? What doesn't it do that you want it to do? If there is something that does do what battery doesn't, that you want it to...you have already answered your own question...YOU shouldn't spend your bucks on it.

chk071
KVRAF
17016 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:45 am

It's a drum sampler. And it does play back sampled drums. :shrug:

Stefken
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554 posts since 9 Nov, 2016

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:47 am

You might have a look at wavealchemy. They are a reference where drums are concerned.

Revolution is 50 % until april 20.

https://www.wavealchemy.co.uk/revolution/pid179/

The changes they are making to Evolution will also find their way to Revolution.

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waltercruz
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1594 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:48 am

What makes you think that Battery is outdated?

recursive one
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3648 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:53 am

chk071 wrote:And it does play back sampled drums. :shrug:
And basically this is all what it does.

It has some built-in effects which are nice but not that special (I believe at least some of them are avaliable separately at NI) and comes with a library which mostly contains various weird lo-fi one-shots.

I've got it as a part of Komplete and have used it maybe a couple of times to add some secondary percussion line or something, just because I have it. TBH unless I'm missing something important, I don't think it has any advantage over any basic drum sampler which I think may be found in most DAWs.
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chk071
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17016 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:57 am

recursive one wrote: It has some built-in effects which are nice but not that special (I believe at least some of them are avaliable separately at NI) and comes with a library which mostly contains various weird lo-fi one-shots.
That was also the feeling i had from most of the sound pack's sound demos, and why i finally passed on Battery, with the current sale. The Vengeance packs seem much better in comparison.

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Aloysius
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22057 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from a computer

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:10 am

I used to use Battery 3 all the time. Then v4 appeared and I don't use that at all. There is some depth to it. You can load REX loops etc. It's a full featured package (a drum studio) and there are some good videos on YouTube. I think they dumped a lot of acoustic kits in v4 and tried to make it more dance music orientated.
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wagtunes
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13275 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:11 am

It came with Komplete. I use it for some tracks. I like it.

YMMV.

chk071
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17016 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:14 am

I really liked Groove Agent SE4 in Cubase. Probably would have no use for Battery, unless the library would be super great now, but, i doubt it is.

Mushy Mushy
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9917 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:19 am

Battery is superb. It's in every track of mine without fail.
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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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10513 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:22 am

Aloysius wrote:I used to use Battery 3 all the time. Then v4 appeared and I don't use that at all. There is some depth to it. You can load REX loops etc. It's a full featured package (a drum studio) and there are some good videos on YouTube. I think they dumped a lot of acoustic kits in v4 and tried to make it more dance music orientated.
Pretty similar to my story.

Always used version V3, especially the acoustic stuff. I prefer the V3 way of organising the kits, which allowed for a much more diverse set of hits in most of the kits. In V4 they've set variations of a similar theme, with limited dance-orientated hits, in similar patterns, across each octave. This obviously makes it easier to audition and swap out different hits for your latest dance banger, but that's not really my style. I also really wished they'd been bothered to set up templates/matched presets for those who owned bother V3 and V4, so we could unify everything under one interface.

Having said all that, I think the library is really good...as is V3's library. I always find stuff of interest to play around with :tu:

db3
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1848 posts since 22 Aug, 2012

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:34 am

I really like Battery. As someone who likes to build patterns in the DAW and fine tune a kit, I find it has a great workflow. At first look, the reworked Maschine expansions also seem to offer better quality over the factory set. Would be great if they added some Maschine stuff like the drum synths....who knows perhaps Battery 5 is round the corner. One advantage I find it has over advanced Kontakt drum solutions is it's lighter on the CPU.
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noiseboyuk
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2412 posts since 25 Jan, 2007

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:31 pm

I too think it has a great library, and its pretty quick to work with with the effects and editing tools. But it's always only been half a program to me, I've long wished for it to have a great rhythm engine. Battery 5 maybe, but I really thought that would come with Battery 4.

I think there's a potential overlap into Maschine territory if they built it too much more. In fact, that's another thing I've expected for years that has never arrived - Maschine Player. Have no interest in the hardware, but I'd find a software-only version interesting.
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Igro
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3988 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:38 pm

Stefken wrote:You might have a look at wavealchemy. They are a reference where drums are concerned.

Revolution is 50 % until april 20.

https://www.wavealchemy.co.uk/revolution/pid179/

The changes they are making to Evolution will also find their way to Revolution.
Oo, thanks for that. In fact, I liked the Evolution more. I will wait for the same discount for Evolution.

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