Chord Track: Differences between Waveform and Studio One 4?

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fantasyvn
KVRist
50 posts since 19 Jul, 2012

Post Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:01 pm

I'm new to Waveform and love its Chord Track feature. This is very inspiring for songwriting.

I read that the new Presonus Studio One 4 also has the Chord Track.

May I ask what are the main differences between the two features?

Thanks,

zzz00m
KVRian
1333 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: Chord Track: Differences between Waveform and Studio One 4?

Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:24 am

I have Waveform 9 and Studio One 3, and have been following the release of Studio One 4 with interest due to the addition of their chord track.

The main difference, as far as I can tell, is that the chord track in Waveform is designed around the pattern generator. You can have all MIDI clips that use a Waveform pattern generator to follow the Waveform chord track, but not MIDI clips that you create in tracks without the generator. In any case, it's a much needed improvement over the pattern generator in Waveform 8.

The chord track in Studio One 4 is more general, and all MIDI tracks and audio tracks can follow the chord changes. It is designed a lot like the chord track in Cubase, if you may be familiar with that one. But Studio One does not have the MIDI pattern generators like Waveform.

So my take is the chord tracks in Studio One may be useful for arranging a whole song, while trying out different chord progressions, while Waveform may be more useful for creative chord experimentation with pattern based music. So I can see a use for both, as they are different enough to avoid redundancy.
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fantasyvn
KVRist
50 posts since 19 Jul, 2012

Re: Chord Track: Differences between Waveform and Studio One 4?

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:23 am

Thank you so much for your explanation. It looks like the two features are both exciting.

zzz00m
KVRian
1333 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: Chord Track: Differences between Waveform and Studio One 4?

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:15 am

fantasyvn wrote:It looks like the two features are both exciting.
Yes, I was looking for something like this last year when I stumbled across Waveform after trying a demo of Cubase. I really found the MIDI generators in Waveform to be very inspirational, but I also wanted something to make regular MIDI clips follow a chord progression.

I'm glad I waited, as now all I have to do is upgrade to S1 v4, for the best of both! :tu:
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DavidCarlyon
KVRist
65 posts since 17 Mar, 2018

Re: Chord Track: Differences between Waveform and Studio One 4?

Post Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:23 am

I have been getting into various composition tools recently. Was just thinking about buying captain chords. I use ableton and studio one m, and sadly captain chords doesn’t work in studio one. But I was close to pulling the trigger.
But at the same time, I was trying out biotek by traction and fell in love with it. So I tried waveform......WOW. How did I not know about this? To me it seems that waveform has all the tech of captain chords built in, but on top of that you can have a separate instance of pattern generator in every clip! And you can re arrange them throughout the song.
To me, this is way more useful. Because I use these tools when I’m writing. What I mean by that is - studio one chord track is great for changing chords at a later date (something which I don’t do all that much once I have a song written...although it’s still useful)
Whereas waveform chord track and pattern generator is a full blown songwriting system. It’s in a different league.
I see people complaining that you can’t use it on clips created without pattern generator. But so far I have used it to create all my clips and it’s been incredible.

If you are making an electronic track in waveform from start to finish, it really is an incredible solution.
I’m actually floored by this program. It’s making me rethink things a lot!

zzz00m
KVRian
1333 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: Chord Track: Differences between Waveform and Studio One 4?

Post Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:43 am

No complaints here, just pointing out the differences. And they ARE different. Studio One can also shift audio up/down. Studio One doesn't have the pattern generators. The chord track in Cubase is probably most advanced, but it doesn't have pattern generators either.

So to somebody asking about the term "Chord Track" in a product's feature list, it can have several meanings, and none of that is standardized.

I really like the pattern generators in Waveform. Worth the price of admission for me! :tu:
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