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2707 posts since 2 Dec, 2004, from North Wales
I read below with interest and gave it a try, anyone else do this with a master?

http://blog.presonus.com/
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AsPeeXXXVIII
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309 posts since 17 Aug, 2015, from Finland
Nope.
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legendCNCD
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721 posts since 23 Sep, 2004, from there
Yes, but slowing down mostly :) and its not a case I'd do a lot anyway. I'd go back into the tune and slower the speed
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skipscada
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1418 posts since 22 Oct, 2004, from Schmocation
First of all I'm a total amateur and make music for myself, so you have no reason to take any notice of what I say.

I read about the tape speed trick in an article about 60s music somewhere (probably Sound on Sound) and just tried it. Now it's almost a habit for me to increase the speed on the master mix by 5 %, with time stretching to maintain the same pitch. It tightens up the timing and ups the intensity without doing the material any perceptible (to me) harm. Works for me. I'm sure the audio quality suffers somewhat, but that's very far from being the weakest link in my process, and my lead ears don't pick up any problems. When I've finished a track, I've usually played the parts so many times I'd normally be able to go back and record it again at a higher tempo, but when a track is physically finished, for me it's also mentally finished, and I can't be arsed to record it again.

Reducing the speed of a master mix ... can't see the point of that except as a gimmick, making a slow track even slower.
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Nielzie
KVRAF
 
8975 posts since 28 May, 2005, from Netherlands
Never thought about this before. Interesting.. Will try :scared: :hyper:
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Googly Smythe
KVRAF
 
2136 posts since 11 May, 2011, from Not where I was just now.
I used to do this back when I had a Portastudio, and was recording everything to tape. The deck has had a variable speed dial. But when I got a Cubase, and was syncing the synths plaback via Cubase/SMPTE (stripe on track 4), I had to stop. Speeding up the tape didn't raise the pitch of the synths - I couldn't be bothered to mess around trying to tune them in, and then tune them back again.
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292 posts since 28 Oct, 2014
Actually i'm kind of obssessed with sparkly top end, and creating custom bus setups that allow me to distort, reverberate and blend in groups of sounds, so no, i don't do this. I'm actually trying to train myself to tone down the high end.

Also, i think multiband compression can give you all the high end you need (as long as the samples allow for it)
Samplecraze
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292 posts since 9 Aug, 2004
Someone explain to me why pitching your mixes up by 5% is beneficial, and please don't give me 'tighter timing' nonsense as that doesn't apply unless you're quantising. If a tune is not tightly pitched speeding it up actually exasperates the sloppiness, not corrects it.

Genuinely want to know.
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Michael L
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2339 posts since 25 Jan, 2014, from the End of the World as we Knowit
Samplecraze wrote:Genuinely want to know.
I don't do it (I have a note/freq chart on my desktop) but The Police increased the speed/pitch of "Every little thing she does is magic" by 50 cents. Rick Beato talks about it starting at 0:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZavJLr5Otq4
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risome
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1959 posts since 30 Oct, 2006, from Australia, NSW
This was an old trick back in the day ..worked better on high end tape machines
A slight pitch up or down on the tape speed playback often worked wonders for tracks.
Made it harder for people to copy stuff as the tuning is slightly out.
No point these days in the age of near pitch perfect computer based recording.
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KVRAF
 
2698 posts since 26 Nov, 2015, from Way Downunder
I do it in FL Studio but I go the other way, tuning DOWN the master pitch. In that case you LOSE top end but you can gain epicness by shifting the whole track into a deeper vibe/key/slightly lofi.

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