Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

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PsychatoR
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154 posts since 25 Apr, 2011

Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:08 pm

is that multiband, specifically to remove some bass of the metal guitar, is it good for that? or something else better? ty

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Niowiad
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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:35 pm

Sorry, if we're talking about "removing" frequencies, did you try EQing that?

meloco_go
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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:12 am

Niowiad wrote:Sorry, if we're talking about "removing" frequencies, did you try EQing that?
The effectiveness of EQ greatly depends on the type of the riff played.
If the guitar part combines ringing chords with palm muted "chugs" the EQ may work for either chords or chugs but not for both. Multiband compression or dynamic EQ are often used for this reason on heavy guitars.

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Niowiad
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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:46 am

Ok now I get what you meant. I was not thinking in terms of dynamic adaptation reading the OP. My bad.

TDR Nova is very good if you want transparent processing... that's what I'd try to use to tame the bass on chugs without affecting ringing chords too much.

Curious to see what other people suggest, on the Drawmer especially.

PsychatoR
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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:16 am

meloco_go
its exactly what you saying, when palm mutes i get a low of bass, but when ringing chords not... so it need a compression only for the bass section 200hz of the EQ.
i wonder tho if it need quick attack with quick release, im still not good at that lol
maybe ozone multiband compression, McDSP mc2000, fabfilter mb , Waves C4, TDR Nova etc??? tx which is better for that? ty :)

PsychatoR
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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:25 am

TDR Nova is an EQ... i dont want that but multiband compressor.

dven
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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:33 am

TDR Nova is actually both. You can use it as a vanilla EQ, but you can also switch on compression for each band. I think it can also serve as a wideband compressor as well.

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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:57 pm

+1 you don't need to spend upto $200 (Softube) for a multiband compressor - infact there should be a free one in your DAW.

PsychatoR
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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:14 pm

ok Nova seems really nice, but if we pay can we get better for that use? the ones i mentionned or others. tx all.
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PsychatoR
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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:27 pm

i think Ozone Multiband Compression maybe the best.

meloco_go
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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:13 pm

TDR Nova is totally OK, as well as free ReaXcomp. Personally I like the ones with an easy to set up interface and minimal functions. For that reason I would often use Waves C1-sc, which allows to compress a specific frequency band.
Be wary of multiband compressors as it's very easy to mess things up.

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cturner
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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:59 am

One thing you might want to keep in mind, especially with Dynamic EQ, is that the knee, as well as attack and release control might not be what you want.

McDSP’s 6034 multiband (which is currently only available for Macintosh) packages an assortment of compressor models into a multiband framework. With less hand-holding, their MC2000 offers the same.
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PsychatoR
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Re: Drawmer 1973 for Rythm Metal Guitars?

Post Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:52 pm

Izotope Ozone 7 dynamics, compress really harder than others for me...it have a wet dry button too...
there's also McDSP ML4000 better than MC2000?... but no wet dry parallele button.

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