LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

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random_id
KVRist
336 posts since 1 May, 2006 from lancaster, pa

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:35 pm

It is finally here: Limited-Z version 2.0.0 has been released. The normal price is $39.95, but an introductory price is set at $19.95. For existing users of Limited-Z, the upgrade is free and your current registration information does not need updated. In addition, all plugins and T-Chain modules are on sale. The introductory price and sale runs now until the end of June.

Limited-Z Version 2 represents a complete reworking of the Limited-Z’s graphics, as well as significant enhancements to the DSP processing. Both the free and paid versions include true peak output monitoring and a specialized ISP filter. The paid version update includes more oversampling options and new EBU waveform/VU monitoring. The complete changelog is below.

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Changelog:
  • Major GUI improvements (large interface, resizable, smoother drawing of vector graphics)
  • Spectrum Analyzer view
  • Increased waveform history view to 2 minutes of audio
  • All waveform and spectrum colors are changeable
  • Plugin default settings (including colors) can be set by the user
  • EBU meter mode with momentary and short-term loudness
  • Improved oversampling (2x - 16x), linear or minimal phase, and hq/lq settings
  • Improved ISP filtering and indicators
  • True peak output monitoring
  • Two new limiter modes
  • Improved registration process
  • General improvements, enhancements, and bug extermination

jbarish
KVRist
338 posts since 28 Apr, 2017

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:37 pm

Great price on this new version. It sounds great and it catches ISP's like nothing else I've used.

cprompt
KVRian
740 posts since 17 Nov, 2010 from UK

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:58 am

Two observations:

1. The UI is a bit fuzzy, especially the text, and it also feels a bit cramped. Contrast it with the new Toneboosters UIs - they are super-crisp and very well laid out.

2. The sound is superb, definitely one of the best (if not the best) I've tried. The mode feature works incredibly well.

The UI is not too much of an issue - it works fine but could do with some refinement. But the sound is where the magic is, and this is just great.

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random_id
KVRist
336 posts since 1 May, 2006 from lancaster, pa

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:36 am

I appreciate the compliments about the sound. I also appreciate the criticism about the UI. This will be the basis of new plugin interfaces (e.g., the next generation of ClipShifter, Limited-MAX, etc.), so I want to get it right. Is it all of the text, or just certain buttons/areas?

cprompt
KVRian
740 posts since 17 Nov, 2010 from UK

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:02 am

random_id wrote:Is it all of the text, or just certain buttons/areas?
As much as I hate comparisons, in the interests of improving your UI, which is my sole intention, look at this two screen caps, which have been enlarged by about 300% or so:

This is Limited-Z
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And this is Toneboosters Barricade
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What I'm seeing here is that there is considerable more anti-aliasing in the Limited-Z UI meaning the text is softer and less defined. Look at the capital L of "Limiter" and "LIMIT" - the former is sharper, the second is softer and blurrier. Also, look at the "ISP" on Limited-Z, how soft and undefined the letters are. I had to increase the Barricade UI to match the size of the smallest Limited-Z UI, so if anything, Barricade should suffer, but it doesn't.

Now, this may be down to the choice of font being used. Looks like Barricade uses Arial which always renders really nicely. I'm not sure Limiter-Z is using, but it looks like it doesn't render as sharply as Arial.

Now look at this image of a couple of knobs from Barricade:
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Again, this image has been enlarged by 300% and yet the graphics are still sharp, whereas the knob in Limiter-Z has way too much anti-aliasing and thus looks fuzzy.

Matt, honestly, I'm saying this to be constructive and positive. I love the sound of Limited-Z, you have done a fantastic job on this plugin. I just want to offer up my honest opinion of how you can tighten up the UI as well and make this an all-round excellent plugin, as well as your other plugins going forward.

leonb2005
KVRer
8 posts since 26 May, 2005

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:09 am

For me - most text seems out of focus. BUT - the mode NAME - in orange - always appears sharp to me - whatever size the interface.

I wonder if your scaling algorithm is allowing non-integer coordinates for most of the UI text - I found in scripting that fonts often display blurry if the coordinates are not integer values. (Guessing). Hope you find the reason...

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Vortifex
KVRian
1028 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:10 am

First, love the sound. It has a nice crisp punchiness, and I like what it does with transients. Definitely not a limiter for maximum loudness, it distorts pretty easy (using free version). Edit: on further listening I think the plugin is better used as a characterful track/bus limiter than a mastering limiter, IMO. The clipping sound is noticeable. Maybe the paid version functions a little differently.

UI: some inconsistency with the fonts. Some are blurry, some aren't:

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Bug: Reset to default crashes FL Studio every time. Win 10, FL Studio 20 64 bit.
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DrReacto
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101 posts since 21 Apr, 2016 from US

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:14 pm

Works in Cubase. With oversampling, I dont recall which mode, I really liked how it preserved the bass. It did a better job with this than some of my limiters. Nice sound and worked well on certain genres.
The free version doesn't have over sampling and I didn't care for the sound without that feature. Perhaps due to manual clipping causing aliasing, I didn't measure it though.

It seems to use a lot of cpu, but as a final limiter I would be ok with that considering it's doing a lot under the hood to get that controlled bass and massage all of the transients just right.

Couldn't get the same kind of level as I could with a multiband limiter but I don't always need, or want, that kind of control. The sale price makes it attractive since this version has better features and sounds better.

Makes we wonder how this compares to their Max version.

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Michael L
KVRAF
2440 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from the End of the World as we Knowit

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:52 pm

I agree with the compliments on sound quality :phones:
Regarding the cramped layout, compared with Transector and Clip Shifter, Limited-Z has all upper case, a lot of orange text, and less space around and between text. Perhaps get GUI advice from your other plugins :D

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DrReacto
KVRist
101 posts since 21 Apr, 2016 from US

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:29 am

Just to add to my post, I tried it again. Minimal HQ with just 2x oversampling sounds much better than no over sampling. This should encourage people to purchase the full version if they like the workflow.

Also, I use Adobe Audition in my university class. Many VST plugins don't update their gui correctly, especially vu meters and gain reduction meters on compressors. LVC Limited-Z works well in Adobe Audition and sounds a 1000x better than the built in limiters. For people mastering in Audition this would be a great addition.

It does a great job at keeping the balance and has a pleasing, 'finishing' type sound that it applies, at least on the Clean setting i tried.

A lot of students use FL Studio but I saw a mention of an issue with that?

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pekbro
KVRAF
2111 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:36 am

I'd like to be able to set the UI size and have it stick. I don't have a 4k monitor,
to me the UI is huge. Also whenever I set the defaults, every time I load a preset,
it asks me if I want to save the defaults, is this intended, because its really weird
if so.

Great job though, I bought it even though I have the limiter thing covered up, down and sideways.

-Cheers

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random_id
KVRist
336 posts since 1 May, 2006 from lancaster, pa

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:33 pm

I have confirmed the issue with FL Studio, and am working to fix it. The problem is that an infinite loop is created when the plugin calls the Windows API. I will get a fix uploaded next week. Pekbro, I will look into this, too. Can you tell me what OS, OS version, DAW, and plugin format (AU, VST, etc.) you are using?

I have some ideas about the GUI, but I am not sure they will satisfy everyone. The problem with the "fuzzy text" can be fixed. I will also add the feature to set/save the defualt GUI size. As for the layout, colors, etc., I think this becomes an issue of retro vs modern vs minimal vs 3d vs etc. I don't know how to balance all of that.

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pekbro
KVRAF
2111 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:52 pm

@random_id

Sure, win 8.1 64, as for DAWs, Reason 10, Bitwig, Tracktion 9, Studio One 3 so far anyway. That is all I have tried, will try more after work.

Thanks

cprompt
KVRian
740 posts since 17 Nov, 2010 from UK

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:44 am

random_id wrote:I have some ideas about the GUI, but I am not sure they will satisfy everyone. The problem with the "fuzzy text" can be fixed. I will also add the feature to set/save the defualt GUI size. As for the layout, colors, etc., I think this becomes an issue of retro vs modern vs minimal vs 3d vs etc. I don't know how to balance all of that.
For me, in my opinion, fixing the fuzzy text would nail the UI. Other than that, I really like the UI.

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random_id
KVRist
336 posts since 1 May, 2006 from lancaster, pa

Re: LVC-Audio Limited-Z version 2 released

Post Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:01 am

New build has been uploaded to the website. Although the UI is still unchanged, the follow issues were fixed/improved:
- stopped crashing in FL Studio with saving/resetting default configuration
- fixed bug that could potentially prompt users at startup to save/reset default configuration
- scale the waveform display release rate to be more accurate with shorter times (i.e., not look so choppy when 1 sec or less)

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