Standalone VST Host Operating System - Possible?

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WOK
KVRAF
2093 posts since 24 Feb, 2004 from Germany

Post Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:04 am

I am using a very old version of EnergyXT modular host live on a Win tablet. It's rock solid and allows for recalling setups by MIDI program change.
32bit only though.

This
http://www.smproaudio.com/index.php/en/ ... v-machines
was such a good idea. Unfortunately it had limited power at the time it came out and they did not maintain it enough or updated it....
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phreaque
KVRian
795 posts since 17 Jul, 2007 from Baghdad-Iq

Re: Standalone VST Host Operating System - Possible?

Post Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:41 am

FYI
It's raspberry pi3 meaning that it's arm processor which is 32 bit and Linux friendly.
http://zynthian.org/#carousel-home
Phreaque Modi

chris.r
KVRist
262 posts since 29 Dec, 2007

Re: Standalone VST Host Operating System - Possible?

Post Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:59 am

phoneyk wrote:I don't understand how you will be able to use vst instruments without a monitor. How will you load and choose which vst instrument you control ?
It's simple if you're not in a need for using all of your plugins from the Vstplugins folder in a spontaneous act. If you can limit yourself to just few instruments and just few most important presets then it's easy to remember them or write down a short list. Say I want to use a good piano, pad and maybe a synth or hammond organ.

How to load them and make choices is up to the plugin host. This is what I'm looking for now. I can make the host autostart with the OS but I'm looking for a specific one that will allow me to autoload a chosen instrument(s) and let me control everything over MIDI including switching instrument.

chris.r
KVRist
262 posts since 29 Dec, 2007

Re: Standalone VST Host Operating System - Possible?

Post Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:09 pm

WOK wrote:I am using a very old version of EnergyXT modular host live on a Win tablet. It's rock solid and allows for recalling setups by MIDI program change.
32bit only though.
phreaque wrote:FYI
It's raspberry pi3 meaning that it's arm processor which is 32 bit and Linux friendly.
http://zynthian.org/#carousel-home
Too bad, some new stuff is now 64-bit only... like the new Amplitube leslie for example.

bungle
KVRAF
1581 posts since 12 Mar, 2004

Re: Standalone VST Host Operating System - Possible?

Post Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:44 pm

phreaque wrote:FYI
It's raspberry pi3 meaning that it's arm processor which is 32 bit and Linux friendly.
http://zynthian.org/#carousel-home
It only runs Linux stuff and is more expensive than a second hand iPad, I will take the much more powerful iPad any day of the week.
If your plugin is a C++ creation, please don't say so.
If it is, pop round Marcos, he has just bought you a Mac to port it.

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Tj Shredder
KVRAF
2023 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: Standalone VST Host Operating System - Possible?

Post Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:44 pm

In terms of size and power you cannot beat a Macbook Air running Mainstage. You can set it up in a way that you would never need to touch the keyboard or trackpad... I use an 11” Air for its size and weight. The 2014 model with i7 is the most powerfull...
And if you get into Max/MSP you can program your own user interface, which is the most flexible setup imaginable, but thats just me...
You could also prepare a Mac mini to boot up into Mainstage, but that is already bigger than an Air and if you want to change something with your set, the keyboard is handy...

NothanUmber
KVRist
319 posts since 1 Jul, 2004

Re: Standalone VST Host Operating System - Possible?

Post Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:00 am

GigPerfomer, Usine and Bidule come to mind. Setting everything up requires mouse and monitor, but switching between configs etc. can be fully automated via midi. Tracktion Waveform imho also makes a great setup-and-forget live host because it loads in seconds - as long as there aren't complex set lists with switching instruments (that might not even all fit into memory at the same time) etc., for this GigPerformer or Usine would be better.

Question is - how many plugins are really needed. You can have 1000+, but you cannot use them all at the same time anyways :)
E.g. most of the u-he stuff is available for Linux also. Not as much choice regarding hosts, but Waveform or Bitwig are working well. And some stuff like VCV works best standalone anyways.

Udoo x86 is also a nice piece of hardware to create a "hardware plugin module" from. Works for both Linux and Windows.
And some people I know are totally into Organelle lately. This won't run any VSTs at all, just Pure Data patches. But also a nice self contained and "defined" system with vast possibilities.

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