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midklang
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69 posts since 17 Jun, 2007

Postby midklang; Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:42 pm Export as midi file / Waveform

Sorry, can't find it:
How to export a midi clip or track as midifile?
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terrynoakes
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317 posts since 7 May, 2007, from Angus,Scotland

Postby terrynoakes; Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:41 am Re: Export as midi file / Waveform

click export button, then select from the format drop down menu, top left of the render options panel that opens up.
FigBug
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233 posts since 3 May, 2005, from Victoria, BC

Postby FigBug; Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:00 am Re: Export as midi file / Waveform

In Waveform 9, there is a file icon on the header of a clip. Click it and make sure pass through plugins is disabled. Then drag that file icon to another track, the file browser, or your desktop, etc.
midklang
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Postby midklang; Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:22 am Re: Export as midi file / Waveform

Hi both,
I had not expected that 'render' will give me midi format as file format :) .
The drag and drop option sounds good.
But unluckily both methods are leaving me with an empty folder :(
dRowAudio
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1147 posts since 30 Dec, 2012

Postby dRowAudio; Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:58 am Re: Export as midi file / Waveform

As Roland says, make sure you have "Pass through plugins" disabled.

The reason it's a "render" is that it does actually play through the play graph. This means you can have multiple MIDI clips making up a single output MIDI file or pass them through MIDI chord/arpeggiator plugins etc.

This does seem to confuse a lot of people however so we may add some additional shortcuts/naming to accomplish the same thing. The file drag method was also supposed to achieve this.
midklang
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Postby midklang; Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:09 am Re: Export as midi file / Waveform

dRowAudio wrote:As Roland says, make sure you have "Pass through plugins" disabled.

Yes, it is, but, I am sorry to say, it is not working.
Just to test I enabled and I can create a wav by drag and dropping somewhere. But when it is disabled no midi file will be generated. The same with the 'export' method. :?
midklang
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Postby midklang; Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:44 am Re: Export as midi file / Waveform

That is driving me crazy: With Tracktion 7 all is fine. So it is not my computer failing.
midklang
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69 posts since 17 Jun, 2007

Postby midklang; Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:52 am Re: Export as midi file / Waveform

Don't know why, but aha, the midi hardware has to be connected AND the track has to be armed.
Not with Traktion 7.
jabe
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1652 posts since 8 Oct, 2008, from UK

Postby jabe; Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:06 am Re: Export as midi file / Waveform

There does appear to be a problem. In W9, I can Export as various audio formats, but I too can't export as MIDI.
[W10-64, T5/6/7/W8/9, 32&64, Spike],[W7-32, T5/6/7/W8, Gina16] everything underused.
dRowAudio
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1147 posts since 30 Dec, 2012

Postby dRowAudio; Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:46 am Re: Export as midi file / Waveform

Hmm, I just tried this in the latest version and it seemed to work. What version are you using?

We'll have a new beta up in the next day or two (v9.2.6) so please grab that and have a go. I'll try and post here when it's up.
jabe
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1652 posts since 8 Oct, 2008, from UK

Postby jabe; Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:01 am Re: Export as midi file / Waveform

I've finally got it to work, but what I did was no different to what I was doing yesterday. There is a MIDI file listed on the projects page, but it's in a folder for a different project altogether. I'll get the new version and try that when I can.
[W10-64, T5/6/7/W8/9, 32&64, Spike],[W7-32, T5/6/7/W8, Gina16] everything underused.
zzz00m
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1010 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Postby zzz00m; Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:41 am Re: Export as midi file / Waveform

I can export a single clip OK by using the file icon in the clip, as well as the export menu.

But I seem to notice the same issue I had when exporting several tracks to MIDI as I had with Waveform 8.
1. Create multiple tracks 1, 2, ..., etc. with each having a MIDI clip for a different virtual instrument plugin.
2. Set MIDI channels used by clips in each track respectively to channels 1, 2, ..., etc.
3. "Export > Render to a File > Format: MIDI file", but unselect "Render Each Track to a Separate File". This should give you one multi-track MIDI file for your exported composition.

The events in the exported MIDI file will show the MIDI events correctly according to the channel they originated on, but the file will be incorrectly identified by most applications when you import this file. All of the MIDI data will get dumped into one track in the receiving application, regardless of the MIDI channel.

This seems to imply that the file is not reflecting the correct MIDI file type after export from Waveform. MIDI file Type "0" export still seems to be missing ...
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