A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

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andrelafosse
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245 posts since 18 Jun, 2010

Post Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:29 pm

A scoring exercise for myself, using myriad Kontakt libraries in a hybrid fantasy/dystopian/sci-fi/suspense kind of vein.

As of August 24th, a (slightly) revised mix:

https://soundcloud.com/user-286291412/a ... -morder-v2

The original (and not hugely different) mix:

https://soundcloud.com/user-286291412/a ... soundtrack
Last edited by andrelafosse on Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.

experimental.crow
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5548 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from The Druid Hills

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:52 pm

i found that the mix sizzled a bit , but this is very well done ...
the minimal approach works well ...
good work ...
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wagtunes
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13606 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:19 pm

My Feedback

Music - 8.5
Instruments - 8
Performance - 8
Mix - 7.5

Overall - 8

Comments: Interesting minimalist track. Voices could use some EQ on the top end. A little harsh. Other than that, nice. Odd, but nice.

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layzer
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5639 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:46 pm

its the choir sound mixed too loud generating some irritating harmonics.
and over processed in a boxy sounding reverb imho.
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seismic1
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9042 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:27 pm

Great composition. I loved the "bleak" atmosphere that you created with the haunting vox. and the unsettling piano lines. It would probably work well as a piece of OST scoring in a murder/mystery/horror setting or possibly in a post-battle scene.

Good work :)

andrelafosse
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245 posts since 18 Jun, 2010

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:54 pm

Thank you for listening, gentlepersons!

ChamMusic
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893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:35 am

Shades of Morton Feldman at times...darkly atmospheric piece that leaves room for the decay of each sound and is not quite so obsessed with the initial attack!

"People rarely understand that the attack of a sound is NOT it's character...this comes from its decay...the departing landscape where the sound exists in our hearing...leaving us rather than coming towards us!" - MF

The man was a deep dude! :0)

Beautifully dissonant..I found myself playing along 3 or 4 times at the piano analysing exactly what you'd done!

Timbres all work together...love the subtle synth soundscapes in the background and the understated Vangelis deep thumps. The 'electronic' vocalist works even better once the second layer enters for me...at the beginning it is quite bare to the world and a slight synthetic edge intrudes on the impression that it might be 'real'.

Note: I, personally, would've liked the 2nd vocal entry to have been in harmony rather than unison / octaves? A small point, but I feel it would've lifted the intensity a touch more?

I was seriously hoping that all those melodic motifs would be steadily transformed into something entirely different as the music gradually rose in intensity towards a full orchestral section of some sort before once again settling down into this hauntingly restrained mood.

It's an instantly stunning piece of music that deserves to be developed even further.

andrelafosse
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245 posts since 18 Jun, 2010

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:38 pm

:hyper: Good grief - a Morton Feldman reference on KVR?!?!

Thanks so much for the very kind feedback; delighted you dug it.

And thanks for the feedback from those who WEREN'T so into it, as well - it's good to hear a diversity of opinions. :tu:

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KVRAF
1729 posts since 17 Apr, 2004

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:42 pm

The vocal reverb sounds off to me too. Maybe it's starting the build up too early for something that sounds that large? It's also maybe not the nicest reverb ever.

As a piece I liked it; but do take a look at that reverb.
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837 posts since 9 Jan, 2013 from morf

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:20 pm

This is spookily beautiful :)
I am hearing some freq resonance ( thx Mark @ChamMusic for this understanding ) throughout the piece, only slightly noticeable on main speakers but very obvious on my tablet.

This in NO way takes away how I feel about it though, also I hope that my equipment isn't at fault and I did not just firmly and thoroughly shove my foot in my mouth :D
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vitaminx
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25 posts since 2 Jan, 2016 from Barcelona, Spain

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:49 am

Hi, just had a listen to your Soundcloud track with headphones on Chrome and the frequency build up of the vocals is very dominant, it sounds almost metallic.
But then I imported the song to Renoise to check it on a freq. spectrum scope to see which range is affected, and there the buildup is almost gone.

Maybe it's a Soundcloud or web browser audio conversion problem?

Anyways, most buildup I could detect seems to be between 1100 - 1350 Hz.

andrelafosse
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245 posts since 18 Jun, 2010

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:10 pm

Hi all,

Thanks again to everyone for listening and commenting. I've just uploaded a revised mix:

https://soundcloud.com/user-286291412/a ... -morder-v2

It's a pretty subtle revision, but I did rein in some of the more errant mid-high frequencies a bit.

As always, the time and feedback are much appreciated!

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JazzyClarinetMan
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58 posts since 25 Aug, 2018 from United Kingdom

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:04 pm

Wonderful music, but I didn't really get the title?
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vitaminx
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25 posts since 2 Jan, 2016 from Barcelona, Spain

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:43 am

andrelafosse wrote:I did rein in some of the more errant mid-high frequencies a bit.
That fixed it! Sounds great now :)

andrelafosse
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245 posts since 18 Jun, 2010

Re: A Charlie Brown Christmas at the Gates of Mordor

Post Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:09 pm

(accidental double-post, sorry)
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