"Sarosynivunge"

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Ranjarresh
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444 posts since 29 Dec, 2012 from Poland

Post Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:37 am

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ChamMusic
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893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Re: "Sarosynivunge"

Post Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:52 am

Works very well...enjoyed listening.

One thing I personally wanted was for a few sounds to be a little more upfront in the soundstage...everything sounded quite distant which made it very slightly 'flat' mix-wise.

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biodiode
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401 posts since 23 Sep, 2003 from UK

Re: "Sarosynivunge"

Post Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:55 am

Something different for a Sunday afternoon. Nice ambient drone but maybe a touch too much reverb, but either way track works well.

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Ranjarresh
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444 posts since 29 Dec, 2012 from Poland

Re: "Sarosynivunge"

Post Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:09 am

ChamMusic wrote:Works very well...enjoyed listening.

One thing I personally wanted was for a few sounds to be a little more upfront in the soundstage...everything sounded quite distant which made it very slightly 'flat' mix-wise.
This distant sound is fully intentional, I think it engages more listener's attention.
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Ranjarresh
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444 posts since 29 Dec, 2012 from Poland

Re: "Sarosynivunge"

Post Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:16 am

biodiode wrote:Something different for a Sunday afternoon. Nice ambient drone but maybe a touch too much reverb, but either way track works well.
Thanks for a comment. I used such amount of reverb to get this "distant sound" effect. First I tried using EQ only, but every time sound became "shallow". Then I tried various reverbs on all layers and most of the time one of the layers "stood up" in front, and I didn't want that. Finally i found combinations of reverbs which satisfied me, but resulted with somewhat "flat" sound, as ChamMusic pointed out.
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layzer
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5639 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Re: "Sarosynivunge"

Post Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:33 am

biodiode wrote:Something different for a Sunday afternoon. Nice ambient drone but maybe a touch too much reverb, but either way track works well.
mm hmm. reverb overboard..
like adding more sugar to something already super sweet.
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]

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layzer
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5639 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Re: "Sarosynivunge"

Post Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:35 am

Ranjarresh wrote:
biodiode wrote:Something different for a Sunday afternoon. Nice ambient drone but maybe a touch too much reverb, but either way track works well.
Thanks for a comment. I used such amount of reverb to get this "distant sound" effect. First I tried using EQ only, but every time sound became "shallow". Then I tried various reverbs on all layers and most of the time one of the layers "stood up" in front, and I didn't want that. Finally i found combinations of reverbs which satisfied me, but resulted with somewhat "flat" sound, as ChamMusic pointed out.
but using too much of certain types of reverb sounds "fake" shoot for a more natural sound.
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HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]

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layzer
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5639 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Re: "Sarosynivunge"

Post Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:39 am

Ranjarresh wrote: This distant sound is fully intentional, I think it engages more listener's attention.
no, it sounds fake.
i found your reverb overcooked and narrow sounding, lacking the width of a more natural sounding open space.
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]

ChamMusic
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893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Re: "Sarosynivunge"

Post Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:52 am

Ranjarresh wrote:
ChamMusic wrote:Works very well...enjoyed listening.

One thing I personally wanted was for a few sounds to be a little more upfront in the soundstage...everything sounded quite distant which made it very slightly 'flat' mix-wise.
This distant sound is fully intentional, I think it engages more listener's attention.
If it was the sound you wanted, then that's absolutely 100% OK with me - it's your music! :0)

Just note though:

A number of listeners will find that 'flat everything is distant and awash with reverb' approach a little bit dull throughout a whole piece...it certainly didn't help to engage my attention at all...I really enjoyed the piece, but it was the excessive use of reverb that put me off it a little bit!

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