[Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

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Laguna Rising
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6802 posts since 4 Apr, 2005 from here and there

Post Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:39 pm

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Heavy Vapour
I just finished a better mix of my July contest entry.
Theme was Moist (Am7)
There are several guitar parts going as low as D
I used two different tunings D standard and Open D (for the high pitch chords)
Synth lead is MinimogueVa going through my Waldorf Rocket

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KVRian
893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:31 am

There are certainly some interesting ideas in there, especially melodically, but the big issue for me was the sounds...

Too many were much too similar in overall tone and frequency range which meant that they overlapped and blocked each other out in the mix.

Many were also 'large' sounds of the sort that dominate a mix...more than one or two at a time and they compete rather than blend.

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Laguna Rising
KVRAF
6802 posts since 4 Apr, 2005 from here and there

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:45 pm

Oh, thanks for your comments and suggestions. That's valuable to try to improve this mix.
I started recording guitars for this track with a big wall-of-sound in mind and things got out of hand very quickly :hihi:
When I was mixing I choose to cut a couple of double-tracked guitars, I tried to cut 'crowded' frequencies in the guitar/synth range but I guess that was not enough.
I'm not sure I can improve this track with EQing alone (or multiband Compression, to try to blend those fighting sounds)
Maybe the best solution is to re/record rhythm guitar, and maybe to change it, in order to be less invasive.
I take note. Thanks

Cheers

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seismic1
KVRAF
9042 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:53 pm

The mix was kinda "busy", but I got used to it after the first 20 seconds or so. The various guitar parts worked very well although I would have cut the volume of the panned chords by a couple of dB. The synth solos were great. Keep on rockin'.

Good work :)

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layzer
KVRAF
5641 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:04 pm

agree with seismic about a busy mix, perhaps play parts solo more?
also agree that the volumes need some work. it was a rockin ride nontheless, good job :tu:
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Laguna Rising
KVRAF
6802 posts since 4 Apr, 2005 from here and there

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:46 am

Thanks for listening, seismic and layzer, your opinion is greatly appreciated.

Cheers

SpaceRat
KVRist
354 posts since 27 Apr, 2007

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:06 pm

Hi there, long time no see
I like the lead synth which is common in your style
very heavy guitars are filling all those frequencies...
good drums / bass
:tu:

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biodiode
KVRist
401 posts since 23 Sep, 2003 from UK

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:57 am

Interesting palette of sounds that you have mixed together. Although I had to reach for the volume knob to avoid annoying the neighbours it was nonetheless a rocktastic ride. If you can sort the volume and frequency issues as suggested you have a very nice track on your hands.

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Laguna Rising
KVRAF
6802 posts since 4 Apr, 2005 from here and there

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:39 am

Thanks for listening, I appreciate your opinion :tu:

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Allomerus
KVRAF
2069 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:17 pm

Cool sounds. Got used to the wall of sound after a bit...
Like the live feel of it and the awesome guitar...
Nice synth solos.
Well done!
:)
Could do with some mixing though...
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Laguna Rising
KVRAF
6802 posts since 4 Apr, 2005 from here and there

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:15 am

Thanks, I'm going to let it rest for a while and get into mixing it properly, later, with 'fresh' ears
:tu:

Cheers

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thomekk
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2444 posts since 3 May, 2003 from Germany

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:13 pm

Hey Laguna,

what a ride!
The start is strange and immediately.
Then I as the first theme gets in, it came very powerful - liked the slowed rock then.
And the development.

The tonal mix is good for me.

Thanks alot
and, yes - keep on rocking! :)
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Laguna Rising
KVRAF
6802 posts since 4 Apr, 2005 from here and there

Re: [Kind of synth-metal / instrumental] Heavy Vapour

Post Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:43 pm

Thank you so much for listening, Thomekk !
I'm glad you like it :)

Cheers

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