Bitwig 2.4 is out

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antic604
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1361 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:17 pm

https://youtu.be/dL55OdasWxg

https://www.bitwig.com/en/18/bitwig-studio-2_4.html

In a nutshell, here's what's new:
  • Sampler overhaul
  • Extended MIDI channel support
  • New modulators: ParSeq-8, Note Counter
  • New devices: Note FX Layer, Channel Filter, Channel Map
  • Resizable tracks in Mix view
  • Resizable scenes in Arrange view
  • Colorable scenes
  • Controller take-over modes
  • On-screen controller visualization
  • Interaction-based hints
  • New quick start templates
  • Modulation workflow enhancements
  • New artist package: Claude Young - Cinematic Synth Sounds
Full changelog: https://downloads-eu.bitwig.com/stable/ ... 1517904912
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kiezum
KVRist
464 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:58 am

Bitwig Studio 2.4 has an interesting new sampler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A90-Rn_RK9E

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KVRist
464 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:09 pm

The Bitwig Studio Sampler combined with all the modulation posibilities is simply brilliant! The new ParSeq-8 and NoteCounter are very helpful modulators.

Here's some in information about Modulators in Bitwig from AdmiralBumbleBee.com:
http://www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/2 ... ators.html

Mat-tvank
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62 posts since 3 Jun, 2018

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:39 am

Can i run synths in bitwig without any midi track. The parseq-8 do not trigger notes

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KVRAF
2842 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:16 am

Mat-tvank wrote:Can i run synths in bitwig without any midi track. The parseq-8 do not trigger notes


I am not realy sure I kin ow what you mean, Parseq-8 its a 'parameter' modulation sequencer, great for CV and for turning knobs on your VSTs like filter etc. so you would normaly have it on a track with a VST synth or a CV out or a MIDI out tooll to a hardware synth.
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antic604
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1361 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:48 am

Mat-tvank wrote:Can i run synths in bitwig without any midi track. The parseq-8 do not trigger notes
Can you give an example of how this would be useful? Becasue even IF Parseq-8 was triggering notes, it would still have to exist on a track, where the instruments sits.

Besides, you can use native Bitwig devices like Arpeggiator, Note Echo, Multi-Note, Diatonic Transposer, etc. to output notes, but even then they need some input to go off of, for example a root note to generate a chord or arpeggio sequence, which would have to be provided in a MIDI clip or from a MIDI controller. In both cases there needs to exist a track where those effects would be located.
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Mat-tvank
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62 posts since 3 Jun, 2018

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:45 am

In Proppellerhead Reason i can use different sequencer for jam. Without create a note which is set on sustain. I like this for jamming.

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antic604
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Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:58 am

Mat-tvank wrote:In Proppellerhead Reason i can use different sequencer for jam. Without create a note which is set on sustain. I like this for jamming.
Well, you worded your question wrong, because in Reason when you drag a synth into a Rack it will create MIDI track for it in Sequencer. You can then attach an arp like RPG-8, Matrix, Kompulsion, etc. to drive it without MIDI clips. Thus you can't run a synth in Reason without MIDI track as well :P

I'm not aware of a way to generate notes in Bitwig without any initial input from the MIDI clip or controller :(
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KVRAF
2398 posts since 14 Sep, 2003 from Essex

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:30 am

Hi

Having previously demoed Bitwig at V2 (or below) and getting nowhere in a hurry (read: I found it somewhat obtuse) I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly I managed to get up and running with V2.4.

FWIW my usual test for a new DAW is how straightforward it is to create a Midi clip and load a VSTI to said track (and get playing).

It amazes me that such a simple procedure as this is an almost no go in some DAW's, a bit like an urban legend!

I may purchase.

Tearing Riots
KVRian
772 posts since 18 Oct, 2014

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:55 am

Mat-tvank wrote:Can i run synths in bitwig without any midi track. The parseq-8 do not trigger notes
Yes you can!
Gotta be crafty about it and use the buildinhg blocks to create something bigger.
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KVRAF
2034 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:44 am

^^^ easier with a MIDI looper >> https://www.repeto.net/product/repeto-mini/ is free (OSX) with the workarounds l constantly get 1-5ms sliding :(
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Tearing Riots
KVRian
772 posts since 18 Oct, 2014

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:10 am

Depends of what you are trying. I usually only generate notes to make the 4-stage modulator tick in the rhythm I want. A steps modulator is perfect for that and I don't even need to switch the os ;)
l constantly get 1-5ms sliding
Do you mean like back-and-forth? Haven't noticed that so far.

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EnochLight
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1049 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Detroit, MI

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:14 am

antic604 wrote:
Mat-tvank wrote:In Proppellerhead Reason i can use different sequencer for jam. Without create a note which is set on sustain. I like this for jamming.
Well, you worded your question wrong, because in Reason when you drag a synth into a Rack it will create MIDI track for it in Sequencer. You can then attach an arp like RPG-8, Matrix, Kompulsion, etc. to drive it without MIDI clips. Thus you can't run a synth in Reason without MIDI track as well :P
Sure you can:

https://youtu.be/lcSP2W3iTtQ
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antic604
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1361 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:52 pm

EnochLight wrote:Sure you can
Ok, you got me. But you had to delete the MIDI sequencer track, surely? Because they're created automatically when you insert a synth.

Also, I really don't understand how does it matter - in Bitwig one doesn't have Rack to put their devices in. They're put on a track, so can't have any device - even external hardware one - without a track. HOWEVER, unlike in Reason, one can HIDE the track if it annoys them for some reason.
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EnochLight
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1049 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Detroit, MI

Re: Bitwig 2.4 is out

Post Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:12 am

antic604 wrote:
EnochLight wrote:Sure you can
Ok, you got me. But you had to delete the MIDI sequencer track, surely? Because they're created automatically when you insert a synth.

Also, I really don't understand how does it matter - in Bitwig one doesn't have Rack to put their devices in. They're put on a track, so can't have any device - even external hardware one - without a track. HOWEVER, unlike in Reason, one can HIDE the track if it annoys them for some reason.
Yeah, beats me. I guess if you want to draw comparisons, Bitwig ties everything you can do to a track, whereas Reason ties (almost) everything you can do to the Rack.

Anyway, I was just teasing you. Sort of. :) :party:
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