Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns and shall be corrected...

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martinjuenke
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Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:44 am

The new policy of Plugin Alliance is pretty annoying, isn‘t it?
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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:48 am

Which part, specifically, is concerning? Seems reasonable to me.

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martinjuenke
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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:57 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:48 am
Which part, specifically, is concerning? Seems reasonable to me.
Ask the sellers in the Sell&Buy thread for example... :scared:

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robotmonkey
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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:58 am

Doesn't seem that bad if you're not in the second hand license selling business.

The only thing that my be concerning is that the license becomes NFR after second transfer.
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kovacs
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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:05 am

Does this apply to only PA branded licenses, or any plugin bought via PA?
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martinjuenke
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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:22 am

kovacs wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:05 am
Does this apply to only PA branded licenses, or any plugin bought via PA?
Any plugin.

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martinjuenke
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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:23 am

robotmonkey wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:58 am
Doesn't seem that bad if you're not in the second hand license selling business.

The only thing that my be concerning is that the license becomes NFR after second transfer.
Concern is concern...

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jbarish
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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:26 am

Very short sighted of PA. They think it will help their business but it will drive more people away. I'm no longer interested in purchasing any of their plugs because of this new policy. And I'm not in the plugin reselling business.
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Tappistry
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954 posts since 3 Aug, 2017 from San Diego, CA

Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:28 am

I’m actually surprised they didn’t impose limits like this sooner. The monthly vouchers are pretty generous, since they can be stacked on top of monthly/seasonal discounts.

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do_androids_dream
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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:29 am

robotmonkey wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:58 am
Doesn't seem that bad if you're not in the second hand license selling business.

The only thing that my be concerning is that the license becomes NFR after second transfer.
Yes that is a bizarre thing. PA make a little on every transfer so they're effectively cutting off their own ability to turn profit. Plus, it's unfair on that individual that for no reason related to his or herself, suddenly has less rights than the previous 'owner'.

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Omkar
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703 posts since 25 Dec, 2007 from Hamburg,Germany

Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:38 am

Heard about it on MP,
the first concerning part was it is awfully hedged,
some passages caused more "what if" questions than a streamlined understanding.

2nd hand items now have to be declared as NFR if this is the case
and the additional high transfer fee mutates a customer into a strategic calculator
if plugins don`t serve any longer or money is needed.

If I get it right,
long-term customers are annoyed of not having ben prepared via info in advance,
means those who invested, paid money to support the company feel overwhelmed.

Interesting thread, thanks Martin for creating it.
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yehboy1
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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:40 am

So a $20 transfer fee AND the transferee gets an NFR license?

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martinjuenke
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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:06 am

yehboy1 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:40 am
So a $20 transfer fee AND the transferee gets an NFR license?
Seems so.

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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:22 am

martinjuenke wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:06 am
yehboy1 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:40 am
So a $20 transfer fee AND the transferee gets an NFR license?
Seems so.
Disappointing :cry:
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systmu
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Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:29 am

robotmonkey wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:58 am
The only thing that my be concerning is that the license becomes NFR after second transfer.

No it's First Transfer, not second. IF I buy it new and sell it. IT is NFR. "Licenses that were previously transferred to you" Meaning any licenses transferred to you. I know firsthand I bought Black box from someone who got it new for like $150. And now I'm out cause it's not listed in my transferable license. This is honestly inconceivable from a supposed first grade company.
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