Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR no longer again!

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martinjuenke
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2491 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Germany

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:15 am

Hey Guys,
Plugin Alliance changed their transfer policy. Many items have become NFR. You should check if your offers are still transferable!
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=515775

Addendum:
They seem to change their NFR policy again...
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=515781&start=68
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escalona
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153 posts since 16 Jan, 2018 from Portland, OR USA

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:23 am

martinjuenke wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:15 am
Hey Guys,
Plugin Alliance changed their transfer policy. Many items have become NFR. You should check if your offers are still transferable!
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=515775
I have almost of all of them and can only transfer about 30%... :uhuhuh: :-o
Here's also another link about the new policy https://support.plugin-alliance.com/sup ... strictions

DJMaytag
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371 posts since 15 Dec, 2012 from Madison, Wiscompton

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:14 pm

This must be in response to people buying 20 copies of a cheap plugin in order to get the bundle discounts, and then selling them on here for $5/each.
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escalona
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153 posts since 16 Jan, 2018 from Portland, OR USA

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:27 pm

DJMaytag wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:14 pm
This must be in response to people buying 20 copies of a cheap plugin in order to get the bundle discounts, and then selling them on here for $5/each.
That happened, but it was over a year and a half ago.

nathanj
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157 posts since 23 Mar, 2013

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:36 pm

Where’s it say if it’s NFR?

escalona
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153 posts since 16 Jan, 2018 from Portland, OR USA

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:49 pm

nathanj wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:36 pm
Where’s it say if it’s NFR?
Plenty of links on this small thread above. :roll:
https://support.plugin-alliance.com/sup ... strictions

jsp1979
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2960 posts since 7 Aug, 2008

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:50 pm

nathanj wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:36 pm
Where’s it say if it’s NFR?
You can click on the Transfer link in your account and it will show you the plugins that are eligible for transfer.

jsp1979
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2960 posts since 7 Aug, 2008

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:51 pm

escalona wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:49 pm
nathanj wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:36 pm
Where’s it say if it’s NFR?
Plenty of links on this small thread above. :roll:
https://support.plugin-alliance.com/sup ... strictions
He wants to know about specific plugins in his account so your answer and eyeroll aren't helpful. :roll:

escalona
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153 posts since 16 Jan, 2018 from Portland, OR USA

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:58 pm

jsp1979 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:51 pm
escalona wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:49 pm
nathanj wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:36 pm
Where’s it say if it’s NFR?
Plenty of links on this small thread above. :roll:
https://support.plugin-alliance.com/sup ... strictions
He wants to know about specific plugins in his account so your answer and eyeroll aren't helpful. :roll:
I see that now, you're right. I apologize.
:tu:
Sorry nathanj, you need to log into your PA account and on "Your Account" page, click on "Transfer License" and you'll see what plugins you can actually sell.
Sincere apologies. I'll read slower (and will respond even slower) in the future.
best,
e.

nathanj
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157 posts since 23 Mar, 2013

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:46 pm

Thanks.

Ya, I was confused because I looked in my account and at my plugins but didn’t see anything about NFR on the plugins I’d bought used.

Nathan

escalona
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153 posts since 16 Jan, 2018 from Portland, OR USA

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:55 pm

nathanj wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:46 pm
Thanks.

Ya, I was confused because I looked in my account and at my plugins but didn’t see anything about NFR on the plugins I’d bought used.

Nathan
I'm pretty sure if you look at the list in "Transfer License" you don't have all the plugins you actually own (meaning you can't transfer some of the plugins you own). It doesn't really say "NFR" anywhere, the system just doesn't allow you to transfer a license that you have bought from someone else.

db3
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1908 posts since 22 Aug, 2012

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:43 pm

"You cannot transfer licenses that were previously transferred to you" - so all licenses become NFR once transferred, and I assume will not be shown in the recipients transfer list.

"and the same plugin can only be transferred twice" - rather than the same plugin, I assume this means multiple licenses of a specific plugin.

What with the heavy discounting, $20 activation fee, and NFR status, they are really trying to kill their used license market. Will certainly make me think twice about PA going forward.

I think PA (and others) would be much better off if they ditched vouchers, had price-points around the $49 mark, and charged $10 transfer.
-dthree-

blue monk
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315 posts since 25 Mar, 2008

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:19 pm

One user account for each plug-in?

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aMUSEd
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29990 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:24 pm

Does this apply just to new purchases? I can't see how they can 'backdate' something like this, surely when you purchase something you have to agree to the license, if the license is changed retroactively then you have not, under law, agreed to that license as it would have been impossible to make an informed decision.

woggle
KVRAF
2150 posts since 24 Nov, 2012

Re: Sellers of PA items: check your accounts if they are NFR now!

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:36 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:24 pm
Does this apply just to new purchases? I can't see how they can 'backdate' something like this, surely when you purchase something you have to agree to the license, if the license is changed retroactively then you have not, under law, agreed to that license as it would have been impossible to make an informed decision.
for sure - but who is going to enforce that law if you are correct?

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