any future for MacBooks in music production ?

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aMUSEd
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30803 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Wed May 08, 2019 8:07 am

What model did you get?

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Sampleconstruct
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Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Wed May 08, 2019 8:52 am

aMUSEd wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 8:07 am
What model did you get?
MBP 15 inch (2018) - 2.9 Ghz Intel Core i9 (6 cores) - 16 GB RAM - Intel UHD Graphics 630 1546 MB - 512 GB SSD - 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports.

and a Universal Audio Arrow audio interface which has Thunderbolt 3/USB-C, it just needed a firmware update and now it runs smooth, no audio glitches so far after about an hour of constant testing.

All USB devices also work smoothly using the adapter cables sold by Apple.

Cinebient
KVRAF
4155 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Thu May 16, 2019 10:31 pm

In the meantime all the „fixed“ holes might slow down intel chips more and more, lol.
https://9to5mac.com/2019/05/14/intel-zo ... ility-mac/
Apple hurry up with own chips for mac or make iPads finally more „pro“.

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aMUSEd
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Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Thu May 16, 2019 11:37 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 8:52 am
aMUSEd wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 8:07 am
What model did you get?
MBP 15 inch (2018) - 2.9 Ghz Intel Core i9 (6 cores) - 16 GB RAM - Intel UHD Graphics 630 1546 MB - 512 GB SSD - 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports.

and a Universal Audio Arrow audio interface which has Thunderbolt 3/USB-C, it just needed a firmware update and now it runs smooth, no audio glitches so far after about an hour of constant testing.

All USB devices also work smoothly using the adapter cables sold by Apple.
You mean USB to Thunderbolt? Are these USB2 or 3 devices?

Thanks

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Sampleconstruct
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Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Thu May 16, 2019 11:49 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 11:37 pm
Sampleconstruct wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 8:52 am
aMUSEd wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 8:07 am
What model did you get?
MBP 15 inch (2018) - 2.9 Ghz Intel Core i9 (6 cores) - 16 GB RAM - Intel UHD Graphics 630 1546 MB - 512 GB SSD - 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports.

and a Universal Audio Arrow audio interface which has Thunderbolt 3/USB-C, it just needed a firmware update and now it runs smooth, no audio glitches so far after about an hour of constant testing.

All USB devices also work smoothly using the adapter cables sold by Apple.
You mean USB to Thunderbolt? Are these USB2 or 3 devices?

Thanks
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) -> USB 2 - I'm using several USB2 devices, iLok, e-Licenser, external drive on a USB2-hub, no problems whatsoever.
And I've not ha a single audio glitch so far, it seems that all the issues I read about don't occur on my new Macbook Pro at all, of course that doesn't help the people which are having issues.

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KVRAF
4155 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Wed May 22, 2019 6:31 am

Interesting...another silent upgrade from Apple.
Now you can get an 8-core i9 Macbook pro (2.3 or 2.4 GHz). It seems the price is also still the same as the previous (which is expensive of course anyway).
Mmhhh......https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/

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jancivil
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Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Wed May 22, 2019 1:52 pm

My 6-core is 2.9gHz. there appears to be no 8-core of that clock speed

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80 posts since 27 Nov, 2018

Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Wed May 22, 2019 2:23 pm

jancivil wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 1:52 pm
My 6-core is 2.9gHz. there appears to be no 8-core of that clock speed
That overclocking speed sounds pretty tempting. 5.0!!!

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Yorrrrrr
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773 posts since 25 Sep, 2011 from Cartagena - Colombia

Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Wed May 22, 2019 2:52 pm

Let the thermal throttling begin!

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jancivil
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Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Wed May 22, 2019 3:10 pm

CircuitTree wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 2:23 pm
jancivil wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 1:52 pm
My 6-core is 2.9gHz. there appears to be no 8-core of that clock speed
That overclocking speed sounds pretty tempting. 5.0!!!
Yep the new one does go to 5. Mine, to 4.8

apparently when one core hits 100% this kicks in.
it won't do all cores like that, due to massive overheating.

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Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Wed May 22, 2019 3:38 pm

jancivil wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 3:10 pm
CircuitTree wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 2:23 pm
jancivil wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 1:52 pm
My 6-core is 2.9gHz. there appears to be no 8-core of that clock speed
That overclocking speed sounds pretty tempting. 5.0!!!
Yep the new one does go to 5. Mine, to 4.8

apparently when one core hits 100% this kicks in.
it won't do all cores like that, due to massive overheating.
I wonder if that makes this cpu more effective than the previous 2018 one. I’m still rocking my maxed out 2015 model with no problems so far.

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Sampleconstruct
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Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Wed May 22, 2019 5:22 pm

Whatever CPU intense tasks I've thrown at my new 2018 MBPro, be it several instances of Kaleidoscope at a sample buffer of 256 in Logic or IRCAM stretch mode in Falcon playing 4 or more polyphonic voices, it's been a breeze. I'm impressed...

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lnikj
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2005 posts since 23 May, 2005 from the North Cornwall coast

Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Wed May 22, 2019 9:14 pm

My new 17" HP Zbook came yesterday after my 2011 MBP finally died (the GPU for the 4th time).

I deliberately underspecced to it an i7-8850H (2.6/4.3). Sitting on my lap and the CPU is doing 70 degrees with my biggest VCVRack patches. The case is barely warm and I don't need a cooling pad. Fans barely audible.

With the i9 MBP the CPU would hit 97 degrees with a handful of modules. Fans at 6000rpm. No way that was every going on my lap.

Windows has not become any less horrible since I last used it in 2006 though :(

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Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Wed May 22, 2019 9:37 pm

Meanwhile, on the sunny side of the street, my humble Core i5 doesn't even have a fan and only gets warm when I am rendering things out of my host. In normal playback it runs cool as a cucumber.
Sampleconstruct wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 8:52 am
All USB devices also work smoothly using the adapter cables sold by Apple.
And would no doubt work equally well with much cheaper cables from eBay. I get mine made-to-order from China for around $3 each, via eBay. I've got USB cables from 0.3m to 3m with a mix of straight and angled connectors that perfectly fit all my outboard gear.
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Cinebient
KVRAF
4155 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Re: any future for MacBooks in music production ?

Post Thu May 23, 2019 5:33 am

jancivil wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 1:52 pm
My 6-core is 2.9gHz. there appears to be no 8-core of that clock speed
Does it ever reach the 2.9 even for more than a few seconds?
Not sure about all the thermal throttle dramas i read about. Real or not?
In some tests the i7 was even better.
I think a new generation might be as good with less GHz and also might not suffer as much from thermal throttle. I don‘t know.
But the 8-core could be interesting since multi-core is more important for me.

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