Waves - WUP vs sale prices

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morelia
KVRAF
4416 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:17 am

I know it's a bad idea but I can't help myself, I've got to say it. This is the sort of Waves shitt that really bugs me. Right now WUP for Waves Gold is $225, or I can buy Waves Gold from Audio Deluxe for 75.95. What sort of root the customer where they don't want it sort of crap is that?

Now, someone tell me I'm unreasonable and show me the enlightened way to view this situation.
Last edited by morelia on Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:52 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
11029 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:25 am

Caps required.

YOU DON'T NEED TO F*CKING WUP!!!! AND DID YOU TICK THE BOX AT THE TOP?
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

cprompt
KVRian
790 posts since 17 Nov, 2010 from UK

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:31 am

morelia wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:17 am
Right now WUP for Waves Gold is $225, or I can buy Waves Gold from Audio Deluxe for 75.95.
I ask nicely... why do you want to WUP your Gold?

The only reasons I can think of are:

You're running a really old copy (pre v10) and need to get V10 licenses
or
You need to get support from Waves and buying the WUP is (slightly) obligatory

There is NO other reason to buy WUP. If you are not doing either of the above, you do NOT NEED WUP!

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Sahul
KVRist
349 posts since 20 Nov, 2000 from Valencia, Spain

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:07 am

There's an even better deal right now: upgrade your Gold license to Gold + RenMaxx at Waves.com for less than $24* (use the YNY23 coupon for a 10% discount). This way you get additional plugins and 1 full year of WUP. This is what I did yesterday, by the way.

(* I also had the Renaissance Bass registered)

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Andy Gone
KVRist
250 posts since 13 Nov, 2014 from Kyiv, Ukraine

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:24 am

cprompt wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:31 am
morelia wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:17 am
Right now WUP for Waves Gold is $225, or I can buy Waves Gold from Audio Deluxe for 75.95.
I ask nicely... why do you want to WUP your Gold?

The only reasons I can think of are:

You're running a really old copy (pre v10) and need to get V10 licenses
or
You need to get support from Waves and buying the WUP is (slightly) obligatory

There is NO other reason to buy WUP. If you are not doing either of the above, you do NOT NEED WUP!
I would add that you need WUP also to transfer a license. And even if you really need it, still don't forget to tick the box "using plugins on one machine at a time. This will significantly decrease the WUP cost.
Win10 Cubase Pro 9.5

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waltercruz
KVRAF
1704 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:15 am

Is usually cheaper to upgrade to next bundle level than WUP.

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Andy Gone
KVRist
250 posts since 13 Nov, 2014 from Kyiv, Ukraine

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:14 am

waltercruz wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:15 am
Is usually cheaper to upgrade to next bundle level than WUP.
Usually yes if WUP expired more than 1 year, and especially when Waves run sales on upgrades.
Win10 Cubase Pro 9.5

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waltercruz
KVRAF
1704 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:19 am

Andy Gone wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:14 am

Usually yes if WUP expired more than 1 year, and especially when Waves run sales on upgrades.
I'm sad that the current bundle sale ends today when I have no money!

But the good part is that it will probably get back in some months.

Gotta feed that GAS.

MogwaiBoy
KVRAF
3070 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:18 pm

It shows just how flawed the WUP system is.

But they are determined to keep it alive because they make craploads of money for essentially no service provided. It's free money for Waves.

It's like with computer printers where it's cheaper to buy a new printer than it is to replace the ink in your existing one - that's a classic loss leader tactic but atleast you are getting something for your dollar.

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morelia
KVRAF
4416 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:34 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:25 am
Caps required.

YOU DON'T NEED TO F*CKING WUP!!!! AND DID YOU TICK THE BOX AT THE TOP?
Yes, box is ticked. When you say I don't need to wup you may be thinking of someone else as I doubt you know what I need. I'd explain why I WANT wup but you have upset me too much and I need to go and wipe the tears from my eyes.
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Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
11029 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:35 pm

morelia wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:34 pm
Mushy Mushy wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:25 am
Caps required.

YOU DON'T NEED TO F*CKING WUP!!!! AND DID YOU TICK THE BOX AT THE TOP?
Yes, box is ticked. When you say I don't need to wup you may be thinking of someone else as I doubt you know what I need. I'd explain why I WANT wup but you have upset me too much and I need to go and wipe the tears from my eyes.
Why do you need/want it then?
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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morelia
KVRAF
4416 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:36 pm

cprompt wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:31 am
morelia wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:17 am
Right now WUP for Waves Gold is $225, or I can buy Waves Gold from Audio Deluxe for 75.95.
I ask nicely... why do you want to WUP your Gold?

The only reasons I can think of are:

You're running a really old copy (pre v10) and need to get V10 licenses
or
You need to get support from Waves and buying the WUP is (slightly) obligatory

There is NO other reason to buy WUP. If you are not doing either of the above, you do NOT NEED WUP!
Yes you are correct.
My Music >>> °morelia ° Intel Core i7 8700K, 16gb, Windows 10 Pro, Focusrite Scarlet 6i6

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morelia
KVRAF
4416 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:36 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:35 pm
morelia wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:34 pm
Mushy Mushy wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:25 am
Caps required.

YOU DON'T NEED TO F*CKING WUP!!!! AND DID YOU TICK THE BOX AT THE TOP?
Yes, box is ticked. When you say I don't need to wup you may be thinking of someone else as I doubt you know what I need. I'd explain why I WANT wup but you have upset me too much and I need to go and wipe the tears from my eyes.
Why do you need/want it then?
Sorry, still busy with the tears.
My Music >>> °morelia ° Intel Core i7 8700K, 16gb, Windows 10 Pro, Focusrite Scarlet 6i6

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morelia
KVRAF
4416 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:37 pm

waltercruz wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:15 am
Is usually cheaper to upgrade to next bundle level than WUP.
Now that is interesting. I'll keep an eye out for that.
My Music >>> °morelia ° Intel Core i7 8700K, 16gb, Windows 10 Pro, Focusrite Scarlet 6i6

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
11029 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Waves WUP

Post Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:38 pm

N/M. Don't really care TBH.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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