Scale Definition listings

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ValliSoftware
KVRist
78 posts since 11 May, 2014

Post Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:52 pm

For all the scales that we can choose from, is there a document of what Rapid Composer uses of those defined scales. I'm just looking for the definition of the Key of C for all the scales.

Thanks.

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KVRAF
3206 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: Scale Definition listings

Post Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:45 am

(notes to myself) I sent the scales in e-mail to ValliSoftware.
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ValliSoftware
KVRist
78 posts since 11 May, 2014

Re: Scale Definition listings

Post Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:41 am

(notes to myself) Thank MusicDevelopments for the scale file. :D

I'm doing some testing and I might have a question about something but if everything looks good I'll share my updated scale file that will include over 1,500 scales.

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tonedef71
KVRian
989 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA

Re: Scale Definition listings

Post Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:09 pm

The following website analyzes *every* possible scale that can be created from the twelve pitches of the twelve-tone equal temperament chromatic scale (there are 1,490 *unique* scales possible): https://ianring.com/musictheory/scales/

The site is comprehensive and impressive: entries from scale index 0 to scale index 4095
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ValliSoftware
KVRist
78 posts since 11 May, 2014

Re: Scale Definition listings

Post Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:57 pm

Sorry for the late post but I finished creating my own custom Scales.rcSCAL file.
I run RapidComposer on a Mac, so the location is
Documents/RapidComposerV3/DB
You'll see a Scales.rcSCAL file, be sure to back that up then unzipped the attached file and put that into the DB folder.
If you notice the layout
I prefixed the Folder names with a exclamation point "!" just so the new scales are grouped together.
Then the scale names are prefixed with a caret "^". I did this so I don't mess up the existing scales that RapidComposer has where they'll get duplicated with my custom scale names.
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KVRAF
3206 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: Scale Definition listings

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:04 am

Wow! Very nice contribution, Gabe! :tu:
Many thanks!
Attila
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dmhotep
KVRer
3 posts since 3 Feb, 2018

Re: Scale Definition listings

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:14 pm

Is anyone that's following this thread familiar with the Scala program? It purportedly lists about 4800 scales. Scala is an editor, librarian, and analysis tool for musical tunings, like just intonation scales, equal or historical temperaments, non-western scales and microtonal scales. It allows scales to be created, manipulated and combined in many different ways. It can tune many different synthesizers and samplers by sending standard MIDI files to them. It can also modify the tuning of music in MIDI files, or translate MIDI files into a microtonal text score.

Although, the program is so old that I don't know if it's supported anymore.

Meanwhile,.. thank you so much for the expanded scale set work, ValliSoftware!

ValliSoftware
KVRist
78 posts since 11 May, 2014

Re: Scale Definition listings

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:50 am

dmhotep wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:14 pm
It purportedly lists about 4800 scales. Scala is an editor, librarian, and analysis tool for musical tunings,
It's 4800 musical tunings, not scales.

Scala tunings only work with software sequencers/instruments that support it, while scales are supported in all sequencers like Logic, ProTools, Cubase, etc... and all software instruments.

I was looking at this because I have Melodyne and this same list, I want for Melodyne as well but I found an issue with working with Scala and Melodyne. Had to do with selecting a key within a scale. Because I was doing something out of the norm, it wasn't working as expected, but I did find a unique work-around. :D

ValliSoftware
KVRist
78 posts since 11 May, 2014

Re: Scale Definition listings

Post Fri May 17, 2019 7:32 am

I just updated to 3.66 and once I start it, it deletes and recreates a Scales.rcSCAL.
So the custom Scales.rcSCAL that I created can't be used.

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KVRAF
3206 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: Scale Definition listings

Post Fri May 17, 2019 7:40 am

I am sorry about that. I am fixing the installer so that this won't happen in the future.
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ValliSoftware
KVRist
78 posts since 11 May, 2014

Re: Scale Definition listings

Post Fri May 17, 2019 9:10 pm

musicdevelopments wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 7:40 am
I am sorry about that. I am fixing the installer so that this won't happen in the future.
Thanks and I actually found a work-around.
I made that file "locked" so it can't be modified. :D

Now I see my scales again.

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