Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

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fantasyvn
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52 posts since 19 Jul, 2012

Post Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:57 am

I am using CloudBounce to master my songs and am happy.

However, apparently, Landr is the most famous automatic mastering service.

Could you assess whether Landr is better?

Thank you for your advice.

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Tj Shredder
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2242 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:21 am

„Automatic“ and „Master“ is a contradiction... But maybe I am too old school...

Kongru
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401 posts since 23 Feb, 2017

Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:25 am

Check out Aria Mastering, I did a test a couple of years ago with Landr, Cloudbounce and Aria, Aria sounded the best to me followed by Landr then Cloudbounce.

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logifuzz-vst-plugins
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Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:08 pm

If it's automatic it can be done better in your DAW with proper plugins even with fixed settings.
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BertKoor
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Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:29 am

logifuzz-vst-plugins wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:08 pm
If it's automatic it can be done better in your DAW with proper plugins even with fixed settings.
Yes but which plugins and which settings exactly?
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Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:46 am

It’s automatic and it’s not static settings.
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Distorted Horizon
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1728 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats

Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:59 am

They're pretty much the same and I'm not sure if I can recommend either.. Do it yourself.. Create your sound..

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martinjuenke
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3283 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:30 pm

An alternative is iZotope Ozone.
My go-to for the master bus (combined with Neutron on the single tracks or subgroups).

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nerner
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19 posts since 2 Feb, 2019

Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:30 pm

I agree with Martinjuenke. If you're not going to hire a professional to do your mastering then Ozone is the next best thing imo. The assistant will get you to a good starting point and then you can make adjustments from there. You can even load in references if you have a specific song/genre your aiming for.

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an-electric-heart
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1685 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand

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Post Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:55 pm

This guy isn't popular around here... but I like him. This is quite interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinWO5X8jk4

And then this goes a bit further;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR7WV_F0GCQ

Silaris
KVRist
293 posts since 15 Jan, 2003 from USA

Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:37 am

The results between the different automated mastering services will probably vary between songs and application settings.

In spite of creating my own final masters for years, I have subscriptions to CloudBounce and eMastered to use as test references against my own work and provide quick demos to collaborators after studio sessions. I have also tested Landr and Aria within the past year.

With that said, if a solid mix is furnished, all of the aforementioned automated mastering services perform a fairly decent job and, through machine learning and customer feedback, will continue to improve in the future. Overall, with either option, the results will probably be more than sufficient for low-budget, indie releases.

Therefore, I would test several tracks to determine which, or any, service you like the best; in regards to sound, workflow and price.

ramseysounds
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225 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:20 am

Define best :?:
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

jochicago
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403 posts since 26 Feb, 2018

Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:39 pm

if you are going to use an automated tool, try this:

Automatic mastering with free tools

1. Youlean Meter to figure out your LUFS
https://youlean.co/youlean-loudness-meter/

2. Limiter 6
https://vladgsound.wordpress.com/plugins/limiter6/

No-knowledge mastering:
- Activate Limiter 6 (peaks control). Try out the presets, hear a few sections of the song to see which preset best suits your material. Aim for -1db ceiling.

- Use Youlean Meter to make sure you are setting your LUFS (average loudness) level to the desired export. -14 LUFS for Spotify.

As a bonus, play around with the Limiter 6 settings and you'd be learning about loudness while you are getting an easy master out of it.

SparkySpark
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1502 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Skövde, Sweden

Re: Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?

Post Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:51 am

A similar, and pretty new, option to Ozone is Blackbox by Nammick: https://www.kvraudio.com/product/blackb ... al/details

I have tried it and liked how it worked. Haven't compared it to other software or services though.
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