mac vs the world

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Protocol_b
KVRist
229 posts since 11 Nov, 2012

Post Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:38 am

OMG, blah, blah, so much noise. Let's just clear the air and start all over, yes? I'll start: Mac is Gooder. :) I surveyed everyone in my studio, it's unanimous.

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fmr
KVRAF
8561 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: mac vs the world

Post Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:42 am

Well, if you found that "fascinating", I will give you some more "fascinating" stuff for you the deal with... :hihi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaBW9qlYcwc
Fernando (FMR)

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jancivil
KVRAF
17912 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: mac vs the world

Post Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:08 pm

I find it fascinating that you bring this level every time Mac is talked about while in the thread you go on about 'Soccer fan behavior' when I addressed an actual statement facetiously. It seems like poor self-awareness to me. As a point, sure, the person that wants to shop out parts rather than things be obsoleted has a complaint; the business model is that so that's a point. To act like their recycling isn't recycling exceeds reason by a mile.

Your stupid strawmanning of me doesn't help matters, the insulting way you comport yourself (typical, too) and then bitch about flaming is just hypocrisy. So I'm muting you, you're a stone drag these days.

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BONES
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7834 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Re: mac vs the world

Post Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:17 pm

Why does it have to be so personal with you? Why can't a point of view exist without ownership? You need to take people out of the equation and you might see things for what they are, not what you want them to be.
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fedexnman
KVRAF
2466 posts since 4 Jan, 2005

Re: mac vs the world

Post Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:52 pm

We should do an OSX Windows Hackintosh or Linux Poll here at KVR and see who uses what for DAWs ?

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BONES
GRRRRRRR!
7834 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Re: mac vs the world

Post Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:05 pm

Wow! Nobody's ever thought of that. Where do you come up with these ideas?
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fedexnman
KVRAF
2466 posts since 4 Jan, 2005

Re: mac vs the world

Post Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:17 pm

BONES wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:05 pm
Wow! Nobody's ever thought of that. Where do you come up with these ideas?
Guess I'm F'n genius hahaha... Just like the OP . :hihi:

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Jace-BeOS
KVRAF
4961 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

Re: mac vs the world

Post Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:38 pm

jancivil wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:08 pm
To act like their recycling isn't recycling exceeds reason by a mile.
I’m not confident in their recycling, myself. Their disassembly robot was a merely a proof of concept and self-promotion, not an actual part of the actual recycling process (maybe some day, but not now, and every time they release a slightly changed phone, that disassembly robot needs to be changed, so that paradigm of recycling doesn’t seem to be effective). They don’t give out much data on which materials they put into recycling systems nor where they go, when they take in obsolete or defective products. I’ve seen statements about aluminum recovered from computers, but not any of the harder to reclaim materials.

Recycling in general is done poorly (shittily) by the USA as a whole (to the point where China has stopped taking our waste because we SUCK at separating). Greedy companies want to just toss everything into single stream collection systems, and too often the combustible materials are sent straight to incinerators (and, no, “waste to energy” is not “renewable” energy; it’s waste OF energy). If Apple has an arrangement with a company that does it right, I’d like to know.

I’d be a lot happier if Apple gave a lot more details on their recycling overall, rather than just the few bits of “green PR” they do. Or I’d at least be willing to believe in their claims with more actual facts made available to us. If I’m missing some info, like if they openly declare who they send materials to and which materials, please let me know.
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Coxy
KVRian
676 posts since 31 Aug, 2004 from England !

Re: mac vs the world

Post Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:02 pm

fmr wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:50 am

I'm well aware of how Apple "recycles" their hardware. :roll:
Another Apple thread another FMR contribution. Naturally. For someone who clearly hates Apple you spend a lot of your time talking about them Fernando.

I watched your video suggestion and it showed nothing of recycling, or rather not "recycling" in line with your implication.

What evidence do you have on this recycling issue you imply? And crucially how does it stack up to manufacturers you, Fernando choose to use instead?

See I trust you've made these evidence based conclusions on your own product purchases otherwise you'd be in high danger of being seen as a big hypocrite who comes along to most Apple threads simply to throw tomatoes rather than preferring to add anything constructive and grown up to the discussion.

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