Strategy and project file size
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 164 posts since 13 Sep, 2014
Hello!
Is it right that my Reaper project file with single instance of Strategy takes up 24 Mb?
It's almost impossible to have 4-5 instances of Strategy in project.
In addition, since Reaper constantly stores plug-in states for undo operations, this greatly slows down the response of the Reaper interface.
Is it right that my Reaper project file with single instance of Strategy takes up 24 Mb?
It's almost impossible to have 4-5 instances of Strategy in project.
In addition, since Reaper constantly stores plug-in states for undo operations, this greatly slows down the response of the Reaper interface.
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- KVRian
- 941 posts since 5 May, 2008 from France
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 164 posts since 13 Sep, 2014
I'm sorry, but I don't get it.
The Strategy don't save the samples in the preset file, isn't it? It saves the plugin state. Is the state really needs so much space?
I don't care about my hard drives, but it's all about performance.
The Strategy don't save the samples in the preset file, isn't it? It saves the plugin state. Is the state really needs so much space?
I don't care about my hard drives, but it's all about performance.
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- KVRian
- 941 posts since 5 May, 2008 from France
That's what i'm saying, the plugin state itself weights 24Mb, there are no samples indeed but the preset file lists the files/load state/mapping/modulations, etc, since this is a text file and there are thousands of samples, the text file is big.
And yes, it's normal that the solo mode does not work with doubling, it's not supposed to.
And yes, it's normal that the solo mode does not work with doubling, it's not supposed to.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 164 posts since 13 Sep, 2014
I've read on another forum there is previous version that don't use so much space for presets. Can I get a link to the version?
(It is very difficult to work when the Reaper is forced to overwrite a huge project file (> 25 Mb) to disk after each change in the plugin parameter.)
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- KVRian
- 941 posts since 5 May, 2008 from France
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 164 posts since 13 Sep, 2014
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- KVRian
- 941 posts since 5 May, 2008 from France
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- KVRer
- 2 posts since 20 Jan, 2020
I have used Strategy with both Cantabile and Gig Perform hosts, and the huge (project) file size issue is real and makes it almost impossible for me to use this plugin. I have used DOZENS of other sample-based plugins, including Telematic also from Acoustic Samples, that consume a fraction of the file size footprint of Strategy.
For example, in Cantabile the size of my Telematic guitar rack (with IK's Amplitube) is 153KB. The size of my Strategy guitar rack (with Amplitube) is over 22MB!!! Both Telematic and Strategy are sampled guitar instruments from the same vendor, so they must know why one instrument is 150 times bigger than the other.
The Gig Performer developers all agree that there is way too much data being loaded into the plugin "state" when compared to other sample-based instruments. I submitted an Acoustic Samples support ticket on 8/2/20 and haven't heard a thing. This needs to be fixed!
For example, in Cantabile the size of my Telematic guitar rack (with IK's Amplitube) is 153KB. The size of my Strategy guitar rack (with Amplitube) is over 22MB!!! Both Telematic and Strategy are sampled guitar instruments from the same vendor, so they must know why one instrument is 150 times bigger than the other.
The Gig Performer developers all agree that there is way too much data being loaded into the plugin "state" when compared to other sample-based instruments. I submitted an Acoustic Samples support ticket on 8/2/20 and haven't heard a thing. This needs to be fixed!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 164 posts since 13 Sep, 2014
You should read the whole topic. 22Mb - it's size of preset.
There's no problem if you use the guitar in standalone mode.
But when you have >2 instances of the guitar in your project and every time you change any parameter of your project, the DAW (Reaper) rewrite the temporary project file (>50 Mb). It really slows down the response of the Reaper interface, sometimes the playback stutters. Not to mention it kills the SSD because the overall size of project file rewrites can reach up to 2-3 GB per 2 hours working session.
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- KVRian
- 941 posts since 5 May, 2008 from France