zebra - bow sounds ?

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sylvainmoreau
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64 posts since 23 Feb, 2008 from france

Post Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:12 pm

Hi,

i'm trying to find string bow sounds on zebra. any suggestions ?
like "real" texture of gritty bow.
in massive X this can be done my adding a noise "bow" (basically a sample)
but no sample in zebra right ? so.. how would you get such a texture ?

thx.

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clangorous
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291 posts since 13 Nov, 2013 from Charlotte, North Carolina

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:16 pm

Use the Comb Filter. It's perfect for bowed sounds. I have a few patches I can share that illustrate. Will post them later tonight once I'm home.

sylvainmoreau
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64 posts since 23 Feb, 2008 from france

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:39 pm

ho thanks that would help alot.

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clangorous
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291 posts since 13 Nov, 2013 from Charlotte, North Carolina

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:37 pm

Sorry for delay, I'm still trying to find the patches. However, Howard Scarr has a great bowed string patch using just the Comb Filter. It's in the Zebra folder called "Leaders." The name of the patch is HS Violince. Check it out!

sylvainmoreau
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64 posts since 23 Feb, 2008 from france

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:56 pm

All right thanks for the hint ! 'll try this afternoon.

sylvainmoreau
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64 posts since 23 Feb, 2008 from france

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:48 am

ih ok i heard it now ! yeah you'r right probably the best thing i heard on zebra... but not as exciting as massive bow sound :/ mmm i'll have to stick with massive for that maybe.

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clangorous
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291 posts since 13 Nov, 2013 from Charlotte, North Carolina

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:29 am

If you play with the envelope settings you can emphasize the bowing sound. Change the ENV 1 mode to v-slope and you get a slider to the right. Adjust the slider and the attack time until you get the bow sound just right.

A nice trick get a REALLY nasty bow sound with this patch is to adjust the ENV2 settings that control the Damp parameter of COMB 1. Set the attack of ENV 2 a little faster and move the v-slope slider until you get a nice scratchy warble on the attack.

I also add a noise module to mixer lane 2 and set to pink noise with HP Filter set high around 80. Set mixer lane 2 to ENV 3 and set a very short attack, with decay, sustain and release at zero. Blend that with the volume dial to taste.

Here is a sample patch with these three tweaks emphasized:
HS Violince - Take a Bow

Howard
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3797 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:46 am

clangorous wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:29 am
Here is a sample patch with these three tweaks emphasized:
HS Violince - Take a Bow
:tu:

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clangorous
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291 posts since 13 Nov, 2013 from Charlotte, North Carolina

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:06 am

Howard wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:46 am
clangorous wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:29 am
Here is a sample patch with these three tweaks emphasized:
HS Violince - Take a Bow
:tu:
You just made my day Howard :D

Howard
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3797 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:15 pm

Forgot to mention: There are several flavours of "mellotronish" bowed strings in the Zebratron soundset. See "Bowed" audio clip on this page...
https://u-he.com/products/soundsets/zeb ... #zebratron

sylvainmoreau
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64 posts since 23 Feb, 2008 from france

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:50 pm

Didn't have time to try your preste ;) will do tomorrow !!

sylvainmoreau
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Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:44 pm

Thanx clangorous ! got that sound. I can see the bow effect.
i also bouth the Zebratron and there's really some nice textured strings (and others) there for sure.
i messed up all my folders with presets :p i don't really understand the organisation with zebra2 and zebraHZ.. i'll uninstall all and try to reinstall fresh.

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clangorous
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291 posts since 13 Nov, 2013 from Charlotte, North Carolina

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:03 am

Howard wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:15 pm
Forgot to mention: There are several flavours of "mellotronish" bowed strings in the Zebratron soundset. See "Bowed" audio clip on this page...
https://u-he.com/products/soundsets/zeb ... #zebratron
Wow Howard, those are absolutely beautiful! In fact the whole sound set is stunning. I am not trying to be a commercial here...but I had to buy it! Thank you for pointing it out as I had not previously looked at it. I'm making music tonight :violin: :band: :harp:

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clangorous
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291 posts since 13 Nov, 2013 from Charlotte, North Carolina

Re: zebra - bow sounds ?

Post Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:04 am

sylvainmoreau wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:44 pm
Thanx clangorous ! got that sound. I can see the bow effect.
i also bouth the Zebratron and there's really some nice textured strings (and others) there for sure.
i messed up all my folders with presets :p i don't really understand the organisation with zebra2 and zebraHZ.. i'll uninstall all and try to reinstall fresh.
Hope you were able to get things sorted sylvain!

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