connection electric guitar PC

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soundspace73
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3 posts since 19 Aug, 2019

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:26 am

I would like to know a way to connect the electric guitar to the PC without background hums.
For now I connect it directly to the sound card but there is this buzz that goes up when I increase the distortion with my plugins.
Some people suggest using behringer ultra di to solve the problem you think about?

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whyterabbyt
Beware the Quoth
27538 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:29 am

info about the soundcard would make sense.
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donkey tugger
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6095 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:31 am

.....and the guitar. Single coil pickups or humbuckers, makes a big difference in terms of hum etc..

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The Noodlist
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995 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:16 am

Does the sound card have Hi-Z?
If not, a DI box, mixer or similar would be needed. DI might have a ground lift.
Currently trying to turn noise into music. :neutral:

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vurt
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50348 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:15 am

what's the signal to noise ratio of the clean signal?
will a gate help?

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Forgotten
KVRAF
3343 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:18 am

donkey tugger wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:31 am
.....and the guitar. Single coil pickups or humbuckers, makes a big difference in terms of hum etc..
...and any additional shielding that has been added to the guitar.

Also, look at the proximity of other electrical devices and cables.

soundspace73
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3 posts since 19 Aug, 2019

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:38 am

the guitar is a stratocaster with 3 single coils and the sound card is a focus on scarlett 2i4.

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ariston
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3465 posts since 28 Jun, 2009 from Wherever I lay my hat

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:50 am

Try getting as far away from your monitor as you can.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
50348 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:53 am

those strip lights people have can add hum too.

but what level is the hum?
some hum is expected in certain gear, hence gates :)
if you can gate out the hum without effecting the struck notes it's not an issue.

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The Noodlist
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995 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:14 am

Try the guitar in positions 2 and 4 from hum cancelling, use balanced output with balanced cables. Consider using humbuckers for high gain stuff.
I also heard power conditioners can improve things, don't know how true this is.
Currently trying to turn noise into music. :neutral:

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Forgotten
KVRAF
3343 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:17 am

If you are recording the guitar you may be able to remove the hum later - if you record the hum with no notes being played you can use Audacity to sample the hum and use that sample to remove the sound from a file of the recorded guitar

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donkey tugger
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6095 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:47 am

Forgotten wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:17 am
If you are recording the guitar you may be able to remove the hum later - if you record the hum with no notes being played you can use Audacity to sample the hum and use that sample to remove the sound from a file of the recorded guitar
Reafir is really good for this (and free...);

https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/

You can edit the noise sample so you only remove the parts you want.

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Forgotten
KVRAF
3343 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:06 am

Probably lots of options to do this, so maybe just record something and test it. If you can’t remove the noise at source, you still have the option of fixing it after recording.

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donkey tugger
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6095 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:22 am

Forgotten wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:06 am
Probably lots of options to do this, so maybe just record something and test it. If you can’t remove the noise at source, you still have the option of fixing it after recording.
...and of curse this will work 10x better if you record the guitar clean (pre effects and amp sims) and apply the noise reduction on the clean signal. Won't work so well if you're using a real amp, unless of course you can also record a clean DI signal and re-amp it afterwards (as some of the these new fangled ones can..).

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Hink
Rad Grandad
29104 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Re: connection electric guitar PC

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:32 am

donkey tugger wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:22 am
Forgotten wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:06 am
Probably lots of options to do this, so maybe just record something and test it. If you can’t remove the noise at source, you still have the option of fixing it after recording.
...and of curse this will work 10x better if you record the guitar clean (pre effects and amp sims) and apply the noise reduction on the clean signal. Won't work so well if you're using a real amp, unless of course you can also record a clean DI signal and re-amp it afterwards (as some of the these new fangled ones can..).
I made sure I had the capabilities to do this with my radial re-amper box...but also of course out of my radial aby box I record a completely dry track. (once again for the one person who may have missed it :hihi: I record up to three mics (usually two, a 57 and an e906), a dry track, lineout from amp, if it has one otherwise from one of my attenuators and the fx returns from a lexicon mx 400 I also monitor through)

I dont alaways re-amp but I can if I want with ease, it's good to fix things as well as try things out...like I have re-amped through a wah wah just to see how it sounds and whether I should do a take with it.
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