Turn guitar signal into Saw Sine etc

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acousticglue
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792 posts since 27 May, 2008

Post Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:44 am

Why hasn't anyone been able to create what the SY300 does by Boss? What is the technical explanation and latency issues? (For vst)

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Niowiad
KVRian
508 posts since 25 Jan, 2017

Re: Turn guitar signal into Saw Sine etc

Post Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:54 am

I stumbled upon this one probably 4-5 years ago (right before I ultimately decided to learn the piano/keyboard altogether for further reasons) because as a guitar only player I was starting to get deeply fascinated by synth/keys/piano sounds, and all the possibilities of midi.

https://www.jamorigin.com/

It was on an early stage maybe even beta, I only demoed it at the time (then as I said above, just went all-in and bought a midi keyboard) and the pitch tracking was quite good and responsive actually. I'd have to guess it could have only improved in the meantime with version 2.

It simply turns guitar into midi, which you can feed to any high quality vst synth... and I think that is much better than a pitch tracking device/plugin which forces you to use an hypotetical included subpar synthesis engine.

RafaelMorgan
KVRist
156 posts since 14 May, 2008

Re: Turn guitar signal into Saw Sine etc

Post Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:20 am

Yep. Jamorigin actually tracks better than my old Roland MIDI pickup hardware system. Very cool stuff. Check out this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... hSYE_51vBo

acousticglue
KVRian
792 posts since 27 May, 2008

Re: Turn guitar signal into Saw Sine etc

Post Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:29 pm

Yeah but that isn't really what I'm asking and own that.

yellowmix
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1340 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo

Re: Turn guitar signal into Saw Sine etc

Post Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:59 pm

If you're a plugin dev why would you develop a competent synth that needs to sell to everyone and then add the complication of pitch tracking specifically for guitars when so few guitar players would actually use that given guitar-to-MIDI exists? It's not that it's hard or impossible, it's a terrible business decision.

acousticglue
KVRian
792 posts since 27 May, 2008

Re: Turn guitar signal into Saw Sine etc

Post Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:29 pm

Wasn't asking about bad business decisions. I get what you say but Boss did fine from it I would say. I guess I just need get one.

yellowmix
KVRian
1340 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo

Re: Turn guitar signal into Saw Sine etc

Post Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:45 pm

EHX still makes organ synth pedals, makes sense, since it's a relatively popular sound and easy to synthesize. Only pedal that survives, I think, following Red Witch and Earthquaker's forays.

Pedals and VSTs are two different roles though.

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polarsky
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97 posts since 24 Jan, 2016

Re: Turn guitar signal into Saw Sine etc

Post Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:22 pm

There's Jam Synth on IOS if it still works. Maybe Madrona Labs Virta for a vst.

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Andywanders
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2595 posts since 3 Aug, 2003 from Narnia

Re: Turn guitar signal into Saw Sine etc

Post Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:19 pm

Reatune in Reaper does a nice job of converting audio to MIDI. Have a look at this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8D2jEhbN7Y

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nix808
KVRAF
3830 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia

Re: Turn guitar signal into Saw Sine etc

Post Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:46 pm

I've been trying to make such a plug for the last couple of years.
Here's the wip thread->
viewtopic.php?f=298&t=439603

Also a guy called Fretted Synth makes/made such plugs

I'd love any feedback(8D) on my plug's performance. I know it needs to be better sounding,
in one respect the simple synth, but also the tracking performance
I'm happy to answer any questions, and also if you'd like to help develop it in Flowstone I can share with u the source, acousticglue

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