Whose gonna step it up for DAW's 2020

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andypryce
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Post Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:35 pm

telecode wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:15 pm
ProTools is gonna back a come back this year. Just wait and see!!

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Monthly subscription fee $10.000? :lol:

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Bombadil
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4559 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Far From the Twisted Reach of Crazy Sorrow

Re: Whose gonna step it up for DAW's 2020

Post Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:32 am

Logic didn't do 10.5 this year as expected, only maintenance updates and the ability for thousands of tracks. Either 10.5 or 11 will drop this year, and I said months ago, I think the next upgrade will not be free.
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telecode
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Re: Whose gonna step it up for DAW's 2020

Post Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:50 am

Bombadil wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:32 am
Logic didn't do 10.5 this year as expected, only maintenance updates and the ability for thousands of tracks. Either 10.5 or 11 will drop this year, and I said months ago, I think the next upgrade will not be free.
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Bombadil
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Re: Whose gonna step it up for DAW's 2020

Post Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:56 am

Cubase was always a backup plan for if/when I switch from Mac to PC. Cubase is far less efficient on a Mac than Logic. I learned the basics, so if the switch does happen, I won't be completely ignorant.
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vurt
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Post Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:59 am

dubturbo fo shuzzbut.

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cryophonik
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Post Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:13 pm

Make Audacity Great Again 2020

xbitz
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Post Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:35 pm

"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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DuX
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3756 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld

Re: Whose gonna step it up for DAW's 2020

Post Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:43 pm

When it comes to DAWs, I think they've got all too many features already. We've got to step it up and make some good music. :tu:

All they need to step up is stability IMHO. All DAW makers could work on the stability issues for the next 10 years and still have issues.

Oh, and I'm working in Reaper, which is fairly stable, but it can always be more stable.
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fairlyclose
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236 posts since 4 Jul, 2019

Re: Whose gonna step it up for DAW's 2020

Post Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:57 pm

DuX wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:43 pm
When it comes to DAWs, I think they've got all too many features already. We've got to step it up and make some good music. :tu:

All they need to step up is stability IMHO. All DAW makers could work on the stability issues for the next 10 years and still have issues.

Oh, and I'm working in Reaper, which is fairly stable, but it can always be more stable.
Agree re features, DAWs are ridiculously powerful now - it is more workflow (ie UX design) that needs development (speaking Reaper here as that is what I know best)

I'd like to see Reaper improve usability with some interface improvements - simple ones like consistency mainly but also refinement of presentation to fit in with the main understandings HCI research and practise has shown over the last few years. Agree re Reaper stability - mostly okay but occasional hanging. Had a crash yesterday that required a hard boot for example
Reaper is not really subject to user input other than feature expansions though. I think the dev has said he has no interest in usability etc and Reaper is more or less the commercialisation of his personal DAW
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Michael L
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2977 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit

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Post Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:11 pm

I think a DAW can have too many features, at the expense of workflow and stability.
MuLab nicely prioritizes those two.
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jonljacobi
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1255 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA

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Post Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:31 pm

I too would like to see more of a "keep it simple stupid" approach. I won't mention what I use to avoid debate, but I use it because to me it's the least intrusive visually and feature-wise.

An open-platform DAW that allowed third-party audio editors (like ARA), MIDI editors, mixers, browsers, recorders, etc. would be interesting. Roll your own.

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antic604
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Post Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:43 am

Perhaps not 2020, but who knows...

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pdxindy
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16107 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

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Post Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:49 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:11 pm
I think Bitwig have been pretty innovative so far and I'm looking forward to what they'll bring in 2020.
+1

They have a lot of fresh concepts and implementations so it’s fun to watch what they come up with next.

Elektronisch
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3686 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Re: Whose gonna step it up for DAW's 2020

Post Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:28 am

I dont know what kind of features you expect, but if you expect such that makes a track for you, there is a living and breathing DAW called = hire a producer. Its expensive but he can make music to you :D

As someone said we have too many features, and it is true you just may not realise it. Every daw packs basicly same stuff, just some are better in some area and some not.

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295 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil

Re: Whose gonna step it up for DAW's 2020

Post Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:38 pm

tobeadj wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:25 pm
Reaper + Bitwig
:tu:

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