Best controller for Diva/Zebra

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arniewest
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3 posts since 23 Dec, 2019

Post Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:51 pm

hello all

does anyone know of a dedicated Diva or Zebra controller? Ive seen a few DIY projects online that never seemed to go into production. Anything on the horizon maybe?

Panorama P1 or sl mk3 work best with u-he software?

Any insight would be a great help. Many thanks in advance.
all the best

Amram
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775 posts since 12 Jan, 2013 from Foolish Shepherd

Re: Best controller for Diva/Zebra

Post Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:23 am


Amram
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Re: Best controller for Diva/Zebra

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Urs
u-he
24290 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Re: Best controller for Diva/Zebra

Post Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:15 am

gosh... that project got shelfed after one of our developers involved in this left the company.

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KVRAF
6879 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Re: Best controller for Diva/Zebra

Post Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:42 am

arniewest wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:51 pm
hello all

does anyone know of a dedicated Diva or Zebra controller? Ive seen a few DIY projects online that never seemed to go into production. Anything on the horizon maybe?

Panorama P1 or sl mk3 work best with u-he software?

Any insight would be a great help. Many thanks in advance.
all the best
My advice is always: if you use a lot of VA style synths, and if you can afford it, buy a dedicated hardware synth that can also act as a controller. It will never map 100% to your software synths, but it will get the experience closer than any generic 8 knob/8 fader controller.

For instance, I use a System-8 as a synth controller and it's basically got a 3 oscs, 1 filter + dedicated HP knob, 1 LFO, 2 ADSR, FX layout that maps very well to many U-he synths. It's not perfect. For instance, if a VA uses buttons to turn on/off osc waveforms (versus a single knob), that will require some creative mapping. But most things map well enough to make the synths enjoyable to program and control. You just want a lot of knobs, buttons, faders that transmit MIDI CC's. I keep eye-balling that Novation Summit which seems like it could be a dream controller, but there are much more affordable options out there (even consider second-hand).

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Forgotten
KVRAF
7608 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: Best controller for Diva/Zebra

Post Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:45 am

Aren’t both synths NKS compatible? Have you considered NI hardware?

arniewest
KVRer
3 posts since 23 Dec, 2019

Re: Best controller for Diva/Zebra

Post Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:08 pm

Thanks so much for the responses. Yeah I just bought a SL Mk3. Thing is a beast and I'm just starting to crack this open. Is there a template hub online that anyone knows of? I looked through the templates in Components and there isn't much. Maybe someone has already mapped Diva and Zebra for the mk3?

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lunardigs
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515 posts since 6 Jun, 2016 from Austin, Texas

Re: Best controller for Diva/Zebra

Post Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:06 am

arniewest wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:08 pm
... just bought a SL Mk3. Thing is a beast and I'm just starting to crack this open.
Three questions, if you don't mind:
1) Can programing of the unit be done completely within the unit? Meaning, no external editor needed?
2) Is it so far easy and intuitive to program, which ever the case the above?
3) Is the unit Class Compliant?--I've read that it is, but perhaps you could say.
Thanks!

Razzia
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364 posts since 21 May, 2016

Re: Best controller for Diva/Zebra

Post Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:36 pm

I'm of the opinion that the best thing to control a soft synth is a hardware synth since there are corresponding controls (map filter cutoff to filter cutoff, and so on) and I spend less time thinking about what goes where. Zebra is its own thing, and it's not always simple to map it in an intuitive way, but I use my Sub37 to control Diva and Repro a lot.

fsciarra62
KVRist
61 posts since 20 Feb, 2018 from La Spezia, Italy

Re: Best controller for Diva/Zebra

Post Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:45 am

I've just bought a Novation 61SL Mk3...
It's a great controller...
It has:
- 2 CV out/gate/mod and clock, on local zones and transparently on midi 4/5
- everything is done on the controller and, man, it's explained clearly in the user manual! :-D
- sure it is class compliant: I use it on Linux. Only the first firmware update required me to do on windows and using local installer... I'm sure that working a bit harder it is possible to have it working on linux too using Chrome browser like it should... didn't work on windows too... maybe my fault...
- it has 8 programmable zones, you can activate/deactivate while playing with a button press!
- it is recognized by Bitwig on Linux using Moss driver. nice!
- you can map all controls to u-he, at least I do on my Bitwig on Linux box.
- and it's a joy for eyes, full of light and stuff..

I'm very happy with it.

Previously I bought panorama P6 but didn't work that easy and both units were faulty: this is the replacement... I didn't trust SL Mk3 initially because talking with Novation support they sayd that was not going to work on Linux... FALSE! works perfectly!

Just my 2c...

Fabrizio

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lunardigs
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515 posts since 6 Jun, 2016 from Austin, Texas

Re: Best controller for Diva/Zebra

Post Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:05 pm

So it's working out better than your P6?
I saw Moss' introduction video for the SL3. He wasn't very optimistic about how deeply the unit could be programmed. For instance, access to the screen wasn't possible then. Does it have it now?

fsciarra62
KVRist
61 posts since 20 Feb, 2018 from La Spezia, Italy

Re: Best controller for Diva/Zebra

Post Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:26 pm

I'm quite sure the P6 had hardware problems. Can't believe the top of line product of Nektar to be in that shape, given that their support was prompt and competent. I think I should blame Amazon, for the first time in my life, but probably it's not their fault too: just my usual luck!

Regarding the Novation 61 SL Mk3 I can only say good things, up to now.

CV works, MIDI works, assign MIDI control in Bitwig works... Moss driver does what it's supposed to do.
If you mean the little screens with the dials and choices, they work under Moss driver. I don't know what they are supposed to do more than what they do, if any.
I can only say that Diva is even more.. divine.. dialing knobs.
Bye,

Fabrizio

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