How to get stuck notes (and how to get rid of them)

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tasmaniandevil
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1565 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he

Post Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:45 am

Reaper is a host which, in certain situations, does not send a note-off when one would be needed.
We'll have to see if we can do something to work around this quirk.

rafa1981
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893 posts since 4 Jan, 2007

Post Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:10 am

I will try to use the MIDI log JS tool to try to pinpoint where's the issue at.

tasmaniandevil
KVRAF
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1565 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he

Post Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:21 am

The issue is rooted in Reaper, as it's not sending the needed note-off to the plugin.
Other plugin developers seem to work around the issue.
We will have to look into this, to see if we can implement some kind of workaround as well.
But in the long run, it would be great if Reaper could address this issue.

rafa1981
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893 posts since 4 Jan, 2007

Post Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:55 pm

I think that it has to do when you jam and midi crosses loop boundaries or something like that.

It is definitely a Reaper problem. It happens on Surge too. Sorry for misreporting.

tasmaniandevil
KVRAF
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1565 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he

Post Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:45 am

rafa1981 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:55 pm It is definitely a Reaper problem. It happens on Surge too. Sorry for misreporting.
All good, this is the right place to report such problems. :tu:
It's often tricky trying to find out if such a problem originates in a plugin or the host.

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groumpf
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101 posts since 7 May, 2002 from France

Post Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:19 pm

I had this problem too with Reaper and Repro-5 in live playing. I didn't try yet in other hosts.
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Alex von Elzer
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94 posts since 26 Oct, 2014

Post Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:06 am

I'm afraid it also happens in studio one 5,. (frequently)
Don't call me a D.J.
I make my own music.

tasmaniandevil
KVRAF
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1565 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he

Post Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:26 am

Alex von Elzer wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:06 am I'm afraid it also happens in studio one 5,. (frequently)
Are you maybe using the Qwerty keyboard feature of Studio One to trigger notes?

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Alex von Elzer
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94 posts since 26 Oct, 2014

Post Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:19 am

No, never used that future. I had this in bitwig and studio one. usually when i changed presets while running the song in a loop.
Don't call me a D.J.
I make my own music.

psynical
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716 posts since 16 Jan, 2019 from deep inside

Post Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:00 am

i'm running into the stuck arp notes constantly in Bitwig tonight, with pretty much any preset that has a saved arp.
I have been able to figure out how to trigger the bug though...
- take any preset without an arp
- activate the arp
- play the arp for a few seconds and make sure no notes get stuck
- change the stack amount
- play the arp again
This will almost immediately cause notes to stick.

tasmaniandevil
KVRAF
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1565 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he

Post Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:36 am

psynical wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:00 am i'm running into the stuck arp notes constantly in Bitwig tonight, with pretty much any preset that has a saved arp.
Are you talking about Diva?
Diva's arp has a confirmed bug in the arp, which can lead to stuck notes. This will be fixed in the next update. It's mentioned in the first post of this thread.

psynical
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716 posts since 16 Jan, 2019 from deep inside

Post Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:14 am

tasmaniandevil wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:36 am Are you talking about Diva?
yes, this is with Diva. I just wanted to mention the steps to trigger the bug in the case that was helpful :)

tasmaniandevil
KVRAF
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1565 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he

Post Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:45 am

Some really good news.
The guys at Cockos fixed the problem with stuck notes in Reaper, that affected our plugins if multiple notes of the same pitch had been played at the same time.
If you frequently got stuck notes in Reaper, please update Reaper to version 6.2.7. :party:
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Funkybot's Evil Twin
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11023 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:57 am

tasmaniandevil wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:45 am Some really good news.
The guys at Cockos fixed the problem with stuck notes in Reaper, that affected our plugins if multiple notes of the same pitch had been played at the same time.
If you frequently got stuck notes in Reaper, please update Reaper to version 6.2.7. :party:

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I haven't had any since trying out the dev builds with it. Kudos to all involved. :tu:

rafa1981
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893 posts since 4 Jan, 2007

Post Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:37 am

Nice!

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