Chords for Miyako Bushi scale

[msf sadib]

I've come across this scale called Miyako bushi scale.It's a Japanese scale. the notes from the C miyako Bushi scales are C Db D F G Ab A.How do I make regular chords from this sort of scale actually ?

[BertKoor]

Look up some music which is actually composed in this scale / style / tradition.
You may find the whole concept of "chord" is lacking.

PS: according to Wikipedia it's a pentatonic scale (penta is greek for 5; so it has 5 notes) and the D and A should not be in there.

[Forgotten]

You may find the whole concept of "chord" is lacking.

I think that is likely with this scale.

[vurt]

You may find the whole concept of "chord" is lacking.

I think that is likely with this scale.

with a lot of traditional japanese music.
even ensembles domt tend to stack instruments the way western music might with a string section.
lots of monophonic instruments, weaving time.

[vurt]

not saying never just rare

[ChameleonMusic]

Traditionally, Miyako bushi is mainly aimed at Koto and Shamisen performances and such music is very much based around melodic content and NOT chords / harmonies.

It is normally used around the root note of D, so would use these notes:

D Eb G A Bb

Using C as the root note that would be:

C Db F G Ab

With C as the root, if you really want to experiment with a more chordal approach then you could try some of these:

Open 5th: C and G

Open 5th: Db and Ab

These will give you plenty of 'space' for melodic invention and exploration as you omit the 3rd.

Alternatively...

Full triads:

C Eb G

Db F Ab

You can also try moving the 'root' by starting with an F minor chord - F Ab C (open 5th F and C )

Frankly any combination of the above 3 chords can produce something quite interesting if you get the melodic content to flow appropriately.

[msf sadib]

Traditionally, Miyako bushi is mainly aimed at Koto and Shamisen performances and such music is very much based around melodic content and NOT chords / harmonies.

It is normally used around the root note of D, so would use these notes:

D Eb G A Bb

Using C as the root note that would be:

C Db F G Ab

With C as the root, if you really want to experiment with a more chordal approach then you could try some of these:

Open 5th: C and G

Open 5th: Db and Ab

These will give you plenty of 'space' for melodic invention and exploration as you omit the 3rd.

Alternatively...

Full triads:

C Eb G

Db F Ab

You can also try moving the 'root' by starting with an F minor chord - F Ab C (open 5th F and C )

Frankly any combination of the above 3 chords can produce something quite interesting if you get the melodic content to flow appropriately.

Does the triad formation like "major" or "minor" structure goes well with any ethnical mode? Or is there any other Formula? What I mean is that will major minor concept sound good on any ethnical modes

[msf sadib]

Look up some music which is actually composed in this scale / style / tradition.
You may find the whole concept of "chord" is lacking.

PS: according to Wikipedia it's a pentatonic scale (penta is greek for 5; so it has 5 notes) and the D and A should not be in there.

Well I see 8 notes in this scale.Maybe it's a octatonic

[msf sadib]

You may find the whole concept of "chord" is lacking.

I think that is likely with this scale.

with a lot of traditional japanese music.
even ensembles domt tend to stack instruments the way western music might with a string section.
lots of monophonic instruments, weaving time.

If I play suppose in major or minor key.is there any way to match the key to miyako bushi scale? So I can play a japanese melody over a major or minor chord?(In any scale)

[Forgotten]

Does the triad formation like "major" or "minor" structure goes well with any ethnical mode? Or is there any other Formula? What I mean is that will major minor concept sound good on any ethnical modes

No, because it is missing both m3 and M3.

[vurt]

well tbh, pick any chord from whatever scale you use.
arpeggiate the notes using a shanisen and a japanese sounding rhythm and it will pass in most cases.

trying to shoehorn the above non western scale in to a western harmonic track is going to sound no better.

[vurt]

obvs. its not going to be japanese, but for pop/dance/electronic it will be close enough for anyone who doesnt listen to much actual japanese music to make the association.
like whole tones even on an electric guitar evole arabia...

[Forgotten]

Maybe listen to some traditional Japanese music and figure out how the scale is used?

[msf sadib]

Maybe listen to some traditional Japanese music and figure out how the scale is used?

I'll keep that in mind.thanks a lot

[msf sadib]

obvs. its not going to be japanese, but for pop/dance/electronic it will be close enough for anyone who doesnt listen to much actual japanese music to make the association.
like whole tones even on an electric guitar evole arabia...

So how are those japanese melodies made in those Hollywood or European movie score?