Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

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Mushy Mushy
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14779 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Post Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:20 am

Latest Forest Psy track finished today:

https://soundcloud.com/mushy-mushy/insolent-solivagant

Used:
- Serum
- Sylenth
- Phase Plant
- Spectral
- Pigments
- Thorn
- Kick 2
- Nord Lead 2x
- Access Virus C
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

recursive one
KVRAF
4773 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:52 am

Excellent job... as usual. :)

Maybe the percussion - hats an especially snares - should be somewhat more prominent. But I'm nitpicking, really.

I like how you manage to keep interest through the whole track without using anything resembling a melody.
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
14779 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:57 am

recursive one wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:52 am
Excellent job... as usual. :)

Maybe the percussion - hats an especially snares - should be somewhat more prominent. But I'm nitpicking, really.

I like how you manage to keep interest through the whole track without using anything resembling a melody.
Thanks man 8)

I went back and forward with the percussion levels and decided in the end to lower them, otherwise the track lost a bit of momentum (contrary to what one would expect).

Re maintaining interest: this is down to automation and LOTS of it.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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wagtunes
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19077 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:33 am

Well, I had to give this a listen. As stated above, despite no melody, kept interest because of everything you have going on in it. Well done. :tu:

sjm
KVRAF
2021 posts since 17 Apr, 2004

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:43 am

Like it a lot. All hail the automation!
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Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
14779 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:49 am

wagtunes wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:33 am
Well, I had to give this a listen. As stated above, despite no melody, kept interest because of everything you have going on in it. Well done. :tu:
Thanks Wags. I’m glad the time I put into it showed. My HOFA meter registered 92 hours :shock:
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
14779 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:50 am

sjm wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:43 am
Like it a lot. All hail the automation!
Thanks man. It’s amazing how much life can be given to a dull sound via automation.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
14779 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:25 am

I had a mixing epiphany last night so redid this putting those theories to test. Seemed to work, especially in the low end.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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Erisian
KVRian
1163 posts since 21 Mar, 2020 from Gothenburg, Sweden

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:28 am

That was great listening. I loved the overall atmosphere and the attention to subtle details.

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
14779 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:49 am

Erisian wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:28 am
That was great listening. I loved the overall atmosphere and the attention to subtle details.
Thanks man. It's all about the subtle details in genre's such as this :wink:
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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toonertik
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2422 posts since 15 Feb, 2017 from a worn out vinyl groove

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:32 am

Wow that packed a punch. Some fantastic vocaloid type sounds... yeah>> love that.
92 hours...
OK, the track owes you...
Let's say minimum wage @ £10 ph = £ 920.00
1 coffee per hour 92 x (say 50p) = £ 46.00
But that only gets the heart to about 100/120 bpm...
so....
the special powder... hmmm... 4 lines per hour = 368.. nah
lets call it 400 lines.. 50 mg per line: 1 grm per 5 hours = 18.4 grm...

nah... say 20 grms @ £100 per grm = £2,000
(this is the real MacCoy Bolivian Flake.. ;)
From Mushy's stash bought before the covid price hike )


Yeah... track owes you £2966.00 :hihi:
Good bit of work here mate... :tu:

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
14779 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:28 am

toonertik wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:32 am
Wow that packed a punch. Some fantastic vocaloid type sounds... yeah>> love that.
92 hours...
OK, the track owes you...
Let's say minimum wage @ £10 ph = £ 920.00
1 coffee per hour 92 x (say 50p) = £ 46.00
But that only gets the heart to about 100/120 bpm...
so....
the special powder... hmmm... 4 lines per hour = 368.. nah
lets call it 400 lines.. 50 mg per line: 1 grm per 5 hours = 18.4 grm...

nah... say 20 grms @ £100 per grm = £2,000
(this is the real MacCoy Bolivian Flake.. ;)
From Mushy's stash bought before the covid price hike )


Yeah... track owes you £2966.00 :hihi:
Good bit of work here mate... :tu:
:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

That's an expensive track :shock: Guess I better work to a budget for the next one :D
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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toonertik
KVRAF
2422 posts since 15 Feb, 2017 from a worn out vinyl groove

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:36 am

Mushy Mushy wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:28 am
That's an expensive track :shock: Guess I better work to a budget for the next one :D
Not really...
Back in the 1980's (after I came off the road as a sound engineer) I worked in a studio complex (long story)
our Trident mixer into Studer 16/24 track was £40 per hour... £3,840
and that's before coffee.. (ok.. coffee was free.. but not t'other :P )
our Raindirk mixer into 8 track MCI was £25 per hour
and I had some lovely compressors.. 2x DBX160.. 2x Neve 2254 mmmmmm
We don't realise how good we have it now.. although I still prefer HW ;)
and our rooms were nicely treated

OK.. serious now..
What BPM was that.. I might try smthg on the modular...
I normally work at between 100/120 bpm... but the vocaloid/wavtable sounds you got are along the lines I was getting from Serum and Thorn.. I now use Waldorf's nw1, a eurorack copy of their Nave synth (OSC only).
But I have up to 10 drum/perc voices.. )))))) I like my beats/rhythms... and a challenge.
It won't be psy.. as I don't know the ins and outs ..
but I can try a tooner_trick interpenetration.

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
14779 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:56 am

toonertik wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:36 am
Not really...
Back in the 1980's (after I came off the road as a sound engineer) I worked in a studio complex (long story)
our Trident mixer into Studer 16/24 track was £40 per hour... £3,840
and that's before coffee.. (ok.. coffee was free.. but not t'other :P )
our Raindirk mixer into 8 track MCI was £25 per hour
and I had some lovely compressors.. 2x DBX160.. 2x Neve 2254 mmmmmm
We don't realise how good we have it now.. although I still prefer HW ;)
and our rooms were nicely treated
Oooh nice. Sounds like a lot a fun equipment.
toonertik wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:36 am
OK.. serious now..
What BPM was that.. I might try smthg on the modular...
I normally work at between 100/120 bpm... but the vocaloid/wavtable sounds you got are along the lines I was getting from Serum and Thorn.. I now use Waldorf's nw1, a eurorack copy of their Nave synth (OSC only).
But I have up to 10 drum/perc voices.. )))))) I like my beats/rhythms... and a challenge.
It won't be psy.. as I don't know the ins and outs ..
but I can try a tooner_trick interpenetration.
It's 148. I'm curious what sounds you mean by the vocaloid ones? I've never even tried Vocaloid so it's not that. The leads are Serum, Phase Plant and Spectral. I assume you mean the main, dark one though and that's Phase Plant.

Looking forward to hearing your interpretation :tu:
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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toonertik
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2422 posts since 15 Feb, 2017 from a worn out vinyl groove

Re: Insolent Solivagant (Dark Forest Psy)

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:21 am

:tu:
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