USB-B to MIDI

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NTO
KVRist
304 posts since 8 Feb, 2011

Post Wed May 20, 2020 7:35 am

T-CM11 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:28 am

Read the OP again, NTO - do you see a some kind of computer mentioned? Right. :idea:
No need to be flip. :dog: The audio interface isn't it (seen before the edit). BertKoor has the answer. Learned something :clap: thanks to him.

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T-CM11
KVRAF
2314 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Wed May 20, 2020 7:44 am

NTO wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:35 am
No need to be flip. :dog: The audio interface isn't it (seen before the edit). BertKoor has the answer. Learned something :clap: thanks to him.
I didn't say it was the audio interface, I mentioned it because it was the biggest hint that you left out the PC in your description.
And I mentioned it (computer = usb host) in the 3rd post of this topic. :P

Jaxeto
KVRer
7 posts since 13 Dec, 2017

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Thu May 21, 2020 6:59 am

Thanks for your replies. I don't intend on using a computer for this.

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bharris22
KVRAF
1751 posts since 3 Mar, 2010

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Thu May 21, 2020 7:14 am

Wouldn't this do the trick for the OP - https://www.retrokits.com/shop/rk006/?

Not cheap, but seems very useful.

lfm
KVRAF
5265 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Thu May 21, 2020 7:31 am

Manufacturer sometimes have special interface products so ask Roland, maybe.

Jaxeto
KVRer
7 posts since 13 Dec, 2017

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Fri May 22, 2020 9:18 am

I'm also worried that my performance will be lost through so many cables.

dellboy
KVRian
1232 posts since 28 Mar, 2007

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Fri May 22, 2020 11:08 am

Why not just buy a USB A Female to B Male Adapter for less than two dollars and use a standard USB to midi cable which can be bought everywhere for a few dollars ?

https://www.sfcable.com/usb-a-female-to ... YgQAvD_BwE

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T-CM11
KVRAF
2314 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Fri May 22, 2020 11:11 am

dellboy wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 11:08 am
Why not just buy a USB A Female to B Male Adapter for less than two dollars and use a standard USB to midi cable which can be bought everywhere for a few dollars ?

https://www.sfcable.com/usb-a-female-to ... YgQAvD_BwE
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CapnLockheed
KVRAF
2348 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Central NY

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Fri May 22, 2020 11:21 am

dellboy wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 11:08 am
Why not just buy a USB A Female to B Male Adapter for less than two dollars and use a standard USB to midi cable which can be bought everywhere for a few dollars ?

https://www.sfcable.com/usb-a-female-to ... YgQAvD_BwE
Wrong. Simple adapters DON'T WORK!!

You MUST have a converter like a pc or as was mentioned earlier a USB/MIDI host like the Kenton USB Host or the iConnectivity. I use an original iConnectivity as a host so I can control hardware synth modules with my Fishman Triple Play MIDI Guitar converter. It works GREAT! You have to be care with iConnectivity tho....not all of them have a USB A slot.....just USB B....those don't do the trick

Just like with Firewire.....They make physical adapters with USB on one end and Firewire on the other....(not really sure why) but they will NOT CONVERT USB 2 Firewire. You need either an express card and slot or a PCI card to add Firewire to a PC.
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dellboy
KVRian
1232 posts since 28 Mar, 2007

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Fri May 22, 2020 11:45 am

T-CM11 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 11:11 am
dellboy wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 11:08 am
Why not just buy a USB A Female to B Male Adapter for less than two dollars and use a standard USB to midi cable which can be bought everywhere for a few dollars ?

https://www.sfcable.com/usb-a-female-to ... YgQAvD_BwE
Why not ask Harry Potter for his magic wand? (read the whole topic before touching that keyboard :P )
My reply was in the form of a question not an answer.

The clue was ?????????????????????????????????????? at the end of the question.

Read the whole answer before touching that keyboard :P )

dellboy
KVRian
1232 posts since 28 Mar, 2007

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Fri May 22, 2020 11:48 am

CapnLockheed wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 11:21 am


Wrong. Simple adapters DON'T WORK!!
Yes I realise that now, the cheap midi to usb adapters are for midi out to USB in and not the other way round.

I will wear a dunce hat and stand in the corner of the room.

dellboy
KVRian
1232 posts since 28 Mar, 2007

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Sat May 23, 2020 6:26 am

As an alternative to an external sound module the OP could consider using an Apple i-Pad with a rompler installed like Sample Tank.

It seems that this is possible with the Apple Lightning to USB3 Camera Adapter.

https://www.pianodreamers.com/midi-connection-guide/

Unless I have got that wrong as well which is more than likely - in which case - I deny ever posting this suggestion :hihi:

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T-CM11
KVRAF
2314 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Sat May 23, 2020 6:46 am

dellboy wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 6:26 am
As an alternative to an external sound module the OP could consider using an Apple i-Pad with a rompler installed like Sample Tank.
That would probably work fine! The choice of "sound module" depends of course on what the OP wants out of it. Old hardware sound modules were often full sample based synthesizers (Roland JV, EMU Proteus, a bunch of Korg and Yamaha ones, ...). Sampletank on the other hand, I'd call that a sample library with some minor tweaking possibilities.

Jaxeto
KVRer
7 posts since 13 Dec, 2017

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Sat May 23, 2020 10:02 am

dellboy wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 6:26 am
As an alternative to an external sound module the OP could consider using an Apple i-Pad with a rompler installed like Sample Tank.

It seems that this is possible with the Apple Lightning to USB3 Camera Adapter.

https://www.pianodreamers.com/midi-connection-guide/

Unless I have got that wrong as well which is more than likely - in which case - I deny ever posting this suggestion :hihi:
I've just found that MIDI/VST performances lose all emotion. Admittedly, Waves Grand Rhapsody is the best I've found so far, but still not brillant.

dellboy
KVRian
1232 posts since 28 Mar, 2007

Re: USB-B to MIDI

Post Sat May 23, 2020 10:59 am

Jaxeto wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 10:02 am

I've just found that MIDI/VST performances lose all emotion. Admittedly, Waves Grand Rhapsody is the best I've found so far, but still not brillant.
Yes, I know what you mean, of late I have been using hardware stuff. Its strange because I have a Roland XV 88 key synth which is very dated but somehow I still like using the piano on it even though I have NI Grandeur - Addictive Keys and lots of other good VST pianos.

Sorry about the German but this might work if all you want is very basic GM sounds, but it seems your Roland Piano would have to be class compliant .......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAmODFMY2Ss

https://miditech.de/en/

https://www.thomann.de/gb/miditech_pianobox_mini.htm

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