Downtempo Electronica (2.0)

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lessera
KVRist
161 posts since 16 Oct, 2016

Post Wed May 20, 2020 2:57 am

With an Armenian Duduk... who doesn't love the duduk? :)

[EDIT: Working on a version 3. Will re-up when done]

This is a complete overhaul of something I attempted many years ago (how time flies). The overall mix isn't quite where I'd like it to be, so any feedback would be great.
Last edited by lessera on Sat May 23, 2020 11:25 am, edited 2 times in total.

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Bansaw
KVRian
1094 posts since 19 Aug, 2008

Re: Downtempo Electronica

Post Wed May 20, 2020 5:14 pm

Love the duduk. That shimmering "acoustic" guitar sound, - I don't know if its a guitar + a synth part layered, 0:00-0:58. But you are making yourself a headache for mixing because its an awful frequency hog for the mid range. So when the dudduk comes in, there's still some shimmering under it, so its slightly more cloudy than is good to be. the duduk is mid-range. I would back of the shimmering altogther and go with a stronger bass/perc and a hi-string in the top octaves if you are determined to play the duduk where you are.

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lessera
KVRist
161 posts since 16 Oct, 2016

Re: Downtempo Electronica

Post Wed May 20, 2020 6:51 pm

Hey Bansaw. I agree about the shimmer to the guitar. It really isn't a well done backing acoustic track at all... I will see about adding a multiband compressor to the upper frequencies, and try to force the shimmer into the background, where it belongs.

The intro bit you are referring to is the acoustic layered ontop of a gated minimoog. And you're right again. Mixing that has been a bit of a headache. I'll scoop a bunch of the midrange out of the synth, and see if that doesn't give some more breathing room for everything else.

It's very much a work in progress. Appreciate the feedback. :)

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lessera
KVRist
161 posts since 16 Oct, 2016

Re: Downtempo Electronica (2.0)

Post Fri May 22, 2020 1:30 am

Updated to version 2. It's now a bit closer to what I was hoping for.

1. Removed a fair amount of shimmer from the acoustic guitar.
2. Scooped out a lot of lower-mids from the gated synth.
3. Narrowed the frequency range for the AM Radio Strings. Now they shouldn't muddy up the orchestral strings.
4. Misc volume leveling.

Hopefully this version is better.

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Bansaw
KVRian
1094 posts since 19 Aug, 2008

Re: Downtempo Electronica (2.0)

Post Fri May 22, 2020 5:04 am

0:42 thats a nice high arp, but its getting lost a little in the mix
Those Am radio strings, I dislike to the point where I'd eliminate them and leave them out altogether or choose another sound option. Probably the former. You can narrow its frequency range which you've done, but its still all over the mids .
Sometimes less is more.

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wagtunes
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19159 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Downtempo Electronica (2.0)

Post Fri May 22, 2020 5:13 am

Guess I'm listening to the modified version. Doesn't sound so bad to me, but I'm not really all that picky. There is a bit of mid that's bothering me though. Sounds like the Duduk. Can't really tell. For the most part, track is fine. Just needs some touching up here and there. Musically, interesting enough if not a little on the long side.

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lessera
KVRist
161 posts since 16 Oct, 2016

Re: Downtempo Electronica (2.0)

Post Fri May 22, 2020 9:00 am

@Bansaw: Thanks again for the feedback. The arp that follows the intro piano sounded a bit cliche to me (though not enough to get rid of it) so I chose to bury it in the mix with just hints of it's presence. Those AM radio strings will be the death of me... I am not sure why I ever choose to use them. I guess I just like how they contrast with the openness of the full orchestral strings. I will tame them further, or perhaps you're right, I will just remove them from the mix. Yes. I have to keep telling myself that less really is more.

@wagtunes: Thanks also for the feedback. Most appreciated. I will go back and see if I cannot tame those mids a bit more. Working/reworiking the midrange is my least favourite part of mixing (choosing what to scoop, and by how much makes me nervous for some reason). I agree that by today's standard, 6 minutes for a track is a bit long (I had so many ideas I wanted to throw into the composition). I will see if I can maybe up the tempo a notch. :)

I promise I'll get around to commenting on yours, and other's tracks this weekend. I have the whole weekend to myself for music listening. :phones:

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