M2 NVMe as sample storage drive vs. OS drive
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2113 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from flint, michigan
Well, my previous build lasted through a decade of constant use before it finally gave up the ghost a couple of months ago. I'm building a new machine and mobo designs look a lot different from those from 10 years ago. I picked up the Gigabyte z390 Designaire as my mobo and it has a couple of NVMe ports, which has me questioning the "real world" advantage of using one of these drives over a ssd SATA drive. Considering getting one of each, and was leaning toward putting the OS on a ssd SATA unless the M2 is a better way to go, lifetime-wise.
Do I gain any in-DAW (S1 Pro) performance advantage by using a NVMe as a drive for Kontakt libraries? I know about the faster startup times for Windows, and I'm not as concerned about that as I am any actual advantage to making a M2 NVMe drive my sample drive.
Lifespan-wise, am I better installing Win10 on an NVMe or ssd SATA?
And lastly, there are a lot of difference choices for NVMe drives. Anyone have any experience with WD Black vs. Samsung EVO?
Do I gain any in-DAW (S1 Pro) performance advantage by using a NVMe as a drive for Kontakt libraries? I know about the faster startup times for Windows, and I'm not as concerned about that as I am any actual advantage to making a M2 NVMe drive my sample drive.
Lifespan-wise, am I better installing Win10 on an NVMe or ssd SATA?
And lastly, there are a lot of difference choices for NVMe drives. Anyone have any experience with WD Black vs. Samsung EVO?
- KVRian
- 767 posts since 3 Jul, 2016
I'm too thinking of getting an nvme drive..pandashake wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 9:55 pm Well, my previous build lasted through a decade of constant use before it finally gave up the ghost a couple of months ago. I'm building a new machine and mobo designs look a lot different from those from 10 years ago. I picked up the Gigabyte z390 Designaire as my mobo and it has a couple of NVMe ports, which has me questioning the "real world" advantage of using one of these drives over a ssd SATA drive. Considering getting one of each, and was leaning toward putting the OS on a ssd SATA unless the M2 is a better way to go, lifetime-wise.
Do I gain any in-DAW (S1 Pro) performance advantage by using a NVMe as a drive for Kontakt libraries? I know about the faster startup times for Windows, and I'm not as concerned about that as I am any actual advantage to making a M2 NVMe drive my sample drive.
Lifespan-wise, am I better installing Win10 on an NVMe or ssd SATA?
And lastly, there are a lot of difference choices for NVMe drives. Anyone have any experience with WD Black vs. Samsung EVO?
from what I read and heard the Kingston's KC2000 NVMe 1tb is a great reliable drive and that's what I'll get. I'll use it for NI Komplete data as well as Steinberg ABS 4 all files..System is on SSD and I think that's good enough..In the future I'll go for the Nvme all over..
Has anyone got all Nvme - system , how is it running?
MPG X670E CARBON Ryzen 9 7900, 64Gb 6K DDR5 4x2tb Nvmes
- KVRian
- 935 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil
Better install Windows in the drive that have more endurance(writing).pandashake wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 9:55 pm Do I gain any in-DAW (S1 Pro) performance advantage by using a NVMe as a drive for Kontakt libraries? I know about the faster startup times for Windows, and I'm not as concerned about that as I am any actual advantage to making a M2 NVMe drive my sample drive.
Lifespan-wise, am I better installing Win10 on an NVMe or ssd SATA?
And lastly, there are a lot of difference choices for NVMe drives. Anyone have any experience with WD Black vs. Samsung EVO?
For M.2 NVMe and Kontakt check
https://vi-control.net/community/thread ... ter.69572/
Samsung is the king of endurance...
https://3dnews.ru/938764/page-3.html
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The M.2 NVMe SSD MLC/TLC drives are very fast we can haveAcrossTheSky wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 10:17 pm I'm too thinking of getting an nvme drive..
from what I read and heard the Kingston's KC2000 NVMe 1tb is a great reliable drive and that's what I'll get. I'll use it for NI Komplete data as well as Steinberg ABS 4 all files..System is on SSD and I think that's good enough..In the future I'll go for the Nvme all over..
Has anyone got all Nvme - system , how is it running?
one big drive with just one partition and install everything
there and there will be no performance loss for audio work loads.
So, for performance concerns in audio workloads does not matter
if it is 1 or 2 or 300 NVMe SSD drives, NVMe drives are way faster
than SATA drives and will not be the system bottleneck.
What are the problems for single big drive partition(OS/programs/etc) ?
Lets say we have a 4TB SSD and it has 2 TB of data...
This is a lot of data and will take a lot of time and space to create
a system image with a program like Acronis/Macrium.
To remediate this situation what we can do?
Simple, create a smaller partition where you will install the operating system
and programs like your DAW/basic plugins, in the second bigger partition you
install all the rest like sample libraries and your music files, image files, project
files and etc...
By having a separate partition for the OS/progs from the rest is also a bit
more safe than having all in one single partition.
As I am always messing with the OS and doing other stuff, it is
beneficial to have another drive...
My first choice for BOOT/OS/programs is Samsung 970 PRO/EVO Plus/EVO
and the second choice is the Corsair MP510, but for the second NVMe SSD
aimed for DATA/libraries is the HP EX950 or Adata XPG SX8200 Pro or
Adata XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro.
Now we have Sabrent 4TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2, WoW!
But the price...
- KVRAF
- 5946 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
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- KVRAF
- 5802 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
i9-9900 CPU - Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master
Plextor M9Pe M.2 2280 512GB NVMe PCI-Express
my Windows 10 drive. 175 GB full.
I cloned to a Samsung SSD 850 Evo.
I then booted from the Samsung.
From ON to first sight of desktop they both take 20 seconds to boot.
Is this normal?
See my PC here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146&hili ... c#p7777146
Plextor M9Pe M.2 2280 512GB NVMe PCI-Express
my Windows 10 drive. 175 GB full.
I cloned to a Samsung SSD 850 Evo.
I then booted from the Samsung.
From ON to first sight of desktop they both take 20 seconds to boot.
Is this normal?
See my PC here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146&hili ... c#p7777146
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146
- KVRian
- 935 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil
The Rapid Mode is just a cache...The Noodlist wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:56 pmTheir "Rapid Mode" technology increases speeds. Below is the difference in speed with Rapid Mode enabled on a Samsung SATA. Samsung is indeed one of the leaders in this technology.
Screenshot (2).png
My preferred cache is
https://www.romexsoftware.com/en-us/primo-cache/
I use only the LEVEL 1, "Write Only" with "Defer-Write".
https://www.romexsoftware.com/en-us/pri ... -wear.html
Use only in stable systems with NOBREAK.
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Kalamata Kid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:18 am i9-9900 CPU - Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master
Plextor M9Pe M.2 2280 512GB NVMe PCI-Express
my Windows 10 drive. 175 GB full.
I cloned to a Samsung SSD 850 Evo.
I then booted from the Samsung.
From ON to first sight of desktop they both take 20 seconds to boot.
Is this normal?
See my PC here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146&hili ... c#p7777146
The BOOT time also depends on the BIOS settings and the stuff
Windows loads at the startup. If the SSD is *VERY* fragmented, it
will also load things slower...
https://www.overclock.net/forum/355-ssd ... speed.html
How to Make Your Windows 10 PC Boot Faster
https://www.howtogeek.com/220033/how-to ... ot-faster/
- KVRAF
- 5946 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
Thanks for the info.Pictus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:22 pm The Rapid Mode is just a cache...
My preferred cache is
https://www.romexsoftware.com/en-us/primo-cache/
I use only the LEVEL 1, "Write Only" with "Defer-Write".
https://www.romexsoftware.com/en-us/pri ... -wear.html
Use only in stable systems with NOBREAK.
What does NOBREAK refer to?
Is materialism devouring your musical output?
- KVRian
- 935 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil
You are welcome, I mean this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterru ... wer_supply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterru ... wer_supply