Starting composition,any ideas?

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VELLTONE MUSIC
KVRian
884 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from Galaxy far away

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:00 pm

Very well said :)The flow must withdraw ,you can't create a mood or inspired ideas,because you 'must' do the job.
Same is with sound design,sometimes i spend days perfecting a single preset,then listen last 10-20 variations and first two are always the best sonically, even not so perfect technically :)

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Distorted Horizon
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3919 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats

Re: Starting composition,any ideas?

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:20 pm

ariston wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:49 am
whenever I TRY to come up with something, it's usually garbage. Whenever I goof off and mess around and just generally have fun, I usually strike gold.
My story also. Though when I try, it's generic or something that I've already done.
Best stuff always comes with an exploration and having fun.

Passing Bye
KVRAF
1585 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Re: Starting composition,any ideas?

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:58 pm

On that note, IMO, good idea is moving on from something that doesn't inspire you anymore and postponing it for later, even if you just started it, so many times I'm in the mood to play chords and I would just go about saving best stuff and than coming back to them later, plenty of times I have no clue what to do and opening those projects actually sparks some inspiration, I don't care really, I have ideas I develop more than decade already, they deserve it, it's art, not product for mass consumption.

lobanov
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438 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Re: Starting composition,any ideas?

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:44 pm

I just start usually from anything and search for "something". Cool phrase, cool sound, mood, cool chord progression, cool sample... It's not important. Something that "sparks".

kvotchin
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458 posts since 9 Aug, 2018

Re: Starting composition,any ideas?

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:36 pm

Something interesting to start with, like some lyrics, a theme, a melody line / riff, a rhythm, a hand-crafted patch or carefully tweaked/mangled sample, a chord progression, whatever.

Then, whatever seems to make sense after that, in whatever order. But I do typically prefer getting down at least a sketch of percussion/beats early on, to sort of hang the next few things off. Some bones, if only temporary.

All over the place, basically, lol.

Bippo
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137 posts since 1 Mar, 2019

Re: Starting composition,any ideas?

Post Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:28 am

There are no rules for creating music, and you don't need a license for it, you can do pretty much whatever you want.

But, I think it's very important to be focused and have a clear concept of what it is that you wanna do.
What genre you aiming for, what mood or emotion you want to convey etc.
You can spend years of creating aimless and uninspired sketchs that will lead you nowhere. But if you spend some time thinking and digging inside yourself and discover what it is that you wanna do, you'll be surprised how quickly ideas will flow one after another.

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KVRAF
1585 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Re: Starting composition,any ideas?

Post Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:00 am

So true!

SneakyBeats
KVRer
19 posts since 29 Jun, 2020

Re: Starting composition,any ideas?

Post Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:22 am

First sound design session, then some chords composing and then just messing around and deleting everything.

studiosounds1
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6 posts since 21 Mar, 2016

Re: Starting composition,any ideas?

Post Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:43 am

Always cool to read about how others create. For me, the process is usually like this.

My first steps always are :
1. Choose BPM - This usually just determines the style/groove I'm going for. If I have something in my head already, FL Studio's
"tap" tempo feature is great for finding BPM.
2. Chord Progression - I usually just freestyle chord progressions on the piano until something works, then record that section.
3. Melodies + Drums - At this point, I usually add top-end melodies + drums and sequencing. Drums are usually last for me, if I add them too early my melodies tend to be a bit too stiff.
4. Mix/Master
4. Listen on studio monitors, iPhone headphones and in the car to find any changes that need to be made

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ariston
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3664 posts since 28 Jun, 2009 from Wherever I lay my hat

Re: Starting composition,any ideas?

Post Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:43 am

Another thing I've noticed, a bit more on the practical side: it's important to change your M.O. from time to time. Coming from classical piano, I was always "chord-up" when writing music. I can come up with something useful in a snap, but it's usually within my comfort zone, which has grown a bit stale over time. To shake things up, I sometimes start with melodies or just rhythms, and take it from there. I found the former especially liberating when I avoided chords altogether, and simply wrote complementary melodies. Music theory still finds chords in there, but the approach is different, and the result is definitely different.

In that spirit, here are a few approaches I've used to kick-start the ol' creative process:

1. Doodle a picture and set that to music.
2. Write a song about how a vacuum cleaner feels when its bag is full.
3. Write a song as if you were a baboon.
4. Listen for music and rhythms in your surroundings and take it from there.
5. Set a poem to music, then change the words.
6. Take an existing song, and sing the words to a different melody and rhythm.
7. Write a song using only 3 notes.
8. Sing like a lovelorn caveman.
9. Play drums like a saxophone, or the guitar like a marimba. Play the piano like a violin, and the bass like an ocarina.
10. Make a track with tiny ping sounds, or just use synth brass.
11. Take the song you hate the most, and write a loving tribute to it.
12. Make a mash-up of trip hop and a military march.

I'm sure there are nearly infinite possibilities, but you get the idea. It's not important to stick to the initial idea, just to get the ball rolling. I started a track once, with the sole purpose of being as minimalist as I could possibly be, and it grew into this big huge thing by the time I was done. I never would have gotten there without that initial aim, though.

SneakyBeats
KVRer
19 posts since 29 Jun, 2020

Re: Starting composition,any ideas?

Post Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:21 am

ariston wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:43 am

3. Write a song as if you were a baboon.
I want to hear your music

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consordini
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356 posts since 6 May, 2020

Re: Starting composition,any ideas?

Post Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:54 pm

I have to agree. It's one of the more intriguing things I've heard recently.
Take care :wink:

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