Seeking replacement VST's for Ohmicide, QuadFrohmage and Ohmboyz

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_oswald
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1420 posts since 16 Jan, 2004 from Minneapolis, MN.

Post Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:48 pm

Good evening,

Well, I think I've reached the end of my rope with Ohmforce. I'm running Cubase 10.5 and I've now realized that all three of the plugins mentioned in this Subject no longer respond to Automation. This, along with the LFO's now deciding to refuse to sync to the transport have driven me up the wall... and I've emailed support three times over the last two months with no response.

So, since I may be binning these classic VSTs from my workflow - I'd like to ask what some good replacements for them may be. I adored QuadFrohmage for it's flexible routing and modulation options. Ohmboyz for it's rich delay path structure and Ohmicide as a multi-purpose distortion unit.

Thank you,
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JerGoertz
KVRAF
2889 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

Post Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:54 pm

Oh man, sorry to hear they're not working under Cubase 10.5. Those are some real classics and it might be hard to replace them; I have fond memories of the Ohmies' stuff, including those plugins.

As far as delays go, have you investigated Unfiltered Audio's Sandman Pro? I have it but haven't used it much... But I understand it is quite flexible/modulatable.
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_oswald
KVRian
1420 posts since 16 Jan, 2004 from Minneapolis, MN.

Post Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:13 pm

I haven't heard of Sandman Pro. I've been out of the music hobby for... a bit (namely software, fell into a Eurorack hole, but figuring out my balance) but I'll check it out. Thanks.

Yeah, it's sad to see them be so wonky. I'm more surprised at the lack of a response from their Support email at this point. I love those plugins and I'll be incredibly sad to sunset them.
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Passing Bye
KVRAF
1646 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Post Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:47 pm

Ohmicide - FabFilter Saturn
Quad Frohmage - Cytomic The Drop

audiot
KVRist
468 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany

Post Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:55 am

They can also be controled via midi learn which is much more flexible than automation tracks, in my opinion (I also use Cubase 10.5.20). I completly gave up on Ohmicide a long time ago, as it's constantly crashing Cubase :bang: but OhmBoyz works (havent used it lately).

Finding substitutes that have the same features should be easy ... but soundwise :? Izotope Trash and Audio Damage Kombinat Tri can also sound agressive but it's not the same as Ohmicide. Best multiband distortion in terms of features/usability is Fabfilter Saturn 2, as Passing Bye said :tu:

I have no experiences with QuadFrohmage, but Sugar Bytes WOW2 is a great sounding Filter/Distortion with lots of modulation options :love: Same for FilterShaper/Shaperbox by CableGuys.

For OhmBoyz your best option is to wait for OhmBoyz Infinity (official release date 4/2018 :wink:)

Seams the developer has lost his enthusiasm since OhmStudio flopped :neutral:

_oswald
KVRian
1420 posts since 16 Jan, 2004 from Minneapolis, MN.

Post Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:30 am

Oof. I'm so sorry to hear that Ohmicide was crashing Cubase for you. I never had that issue and it was a constant tool in my toolbox.

I really wish OhmStudio didn't flop - I liked the concept quite a lot but... admittedly, never looked into it seriously. I was already deep into Cubase and learning another DAW is a hard ask.
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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Post Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:40 am

Trash 2 is an option for distortion. Comes with great filtering, convolution and compression to really help to design a sound that'll fit many scenarios.

For delay, it'll depend how much of what you liked about OhmBoyz depended on it's multi-tap features. For the craziness, I'd look at Sandman Pro and RP-Delay, which can also do some off the wall delays. But if you liked how dangerous playing with OB's filter could be, then Replika XT with it's in-line filter option can also easily get into 'about-to-blow-your-speakers' territory...espexially with the peak filter. A lot of fun :tu:

It is also worth mentioning that OhmForce are apparently working slowly on bringing their plugins up-to-date. Despite promising to keep people in the loop, they are not forthcoming with any info. However, every year-or-so, they do show screenshots of progress.Doesn't fill me with confidence, but who knows. If you have the cash, and feel like taking a ount, you can get a special pre-order discount via your account.

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mladi
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1128 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany

Post Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:55 am

audiot wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:55 am
Seams the developer has lost his enthusiasm since OhmStudio flopped :neutral:
Now that came unexpected.. *cough**cough* :roll:
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KVRAF
8304 posts since 12 May, 2008

Post Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:13 am

In addition to Trash, Kombinat is a good multiband distortion alternative.
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audiot
KVRist
468 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany

Post Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:56 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:40 am
It is also worth mentioning that OhmForce are apparently working slowly on bringing their plugins up-to-date. Despite promising to keep people in the loop, they are not forthcoming with any info. However, every year-or-so, they do show screenshots of progress.Doesn't fill me with confidence, but who knows. If you have the cash, and feel like taking a ount, you can get a special pre-order discount via your account.

Good news ... somehow :pray: They still have great sounding product line, that should simply get some updates. I would pay for an Ohmicide update that's stable ... and has a less artistic UI :scared:

audiot
KVRist
468 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany

Post Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:00 am

_oswald wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:30 am
Oof. I'm so sorry to hear that Ohmicide was crashing Cubase for you. I never had that issue and it was a constant tool in my toolbox.

I really wish OhmStudio didn't flop - I liked the concept quite a lot but... admittedly, never looked into it seriously. I was already deep into Cubase and learning another DAW is a hard ask.
Some bugs are graphic card related. I switched from Nvidia to ATI (which i would highly recommend to all nvidia useres) and I have the feeling that this was the time when Ohmicide stoped working ... i might be wrong, but otherwise my Cubase is rock solid (Win 10).
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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Post Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:00 am

audiot wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:56 am
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:40 am
It is also worth mentioning that OhmForce are apparently working slowly on bringing their plugins up-to-date. Despite promising to keep people in the loop, they are not forthcoming with any info. However, every year-or-so, they do show screenshots of progress.Doesn't fill me with confidence, but who knows. If you have the cash, and feel like taking a ount, you can get a special pre-order discount via your account.

Good news ... somehow :pray: They still have great sounding product line, that should simply get some updates. I would pay for an Ohmicide update that's stable ... and has a less artistic UI :scared:
Like this, perhaps:

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Post Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:03 am

P.S I loved their older art-style gui's. And my only complaint about Ohmicide's was the small size :shrug:

sinkmusic
KVRAF
6457 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france

Post Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:03 am

For delays, maybe that D16 Sigmund or Eareckon's Earebound could suit your needs.
https://d16.pl/sigmund
https://www.eareckon.com/en/products/ea ... st-au.html

As far as filter goes, you may find a similar grit and crazyness (than with the Omhboys) with Inear Display plugins.
https://ineardisplay.com/plugins/cruelle/
https://ineardisplay.com/plugins/regressif/

For multiband saturation AD Kombinat is good (as said above). BlueCat Destructor is also a very powerful saturation device (while being full spectrum, not multiband, but the pre & post eqs allow for great pre/de-emphasis).
https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/P ... estructor/
(On a very personal note, in the context of this thread and despite being an awesome sound mangler i would not suggest Izotope Trash, because it is nearly as old and abandonware as the Omhboyz)
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audiot
KVRist
468 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany

Post Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:04 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:00 am
audiot wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:56 am
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:40 am
It is also worth mentioning that OhmForce are apparently working slowly on bringing their plugins up-to-date. Despite promising to keep people in the loop, they are not forthcoming with any info. However, every year-or-so, they do show screenshots of progress.Doesn't fill me with confidence, but who knows. If you have the cash, and feel like taking a ount, you can get a special pre-order discount via your account.

Good news ... somehow :pray: They still have great sounding product line, that should simply get some updates. I would pay for an Ohmicide update that's stable ... and has a less artistic UI :scared:
Like this, perhaps:

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:o ... thats a great UI :hyper: When did they post that screenshot? Before or after that blue one from the homepage?

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