I am a newbie to both Kontakt (full version 6) and The Orchestra. First impressions are quite high on The Orchestra, though integration with DAW and Kontakt are awkward. I'm using Samplitude Pro X5 as my host. And Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk2 as my midi keyboard (if that matters -- running in Kontakt, not in KK). Wondering if anyone has put together a tutorial on how to get going effectively?
For Context, In my case, I have my Kontakt outputs set up as:
1 Violins, Violas, Cells, Basses, The ORCHESTRA, Low Brass, French Horns, Oboe (8 stereo, 16 channels, plus 4 Aux) for intended Default usage. See attached.
My challenges have included:
- In The Orchestra.nki, the Kontakt Piano keyboard is only showing the range of the first output (i.e. assigned to 1 Violin, all Articulations) - Output 1-2, MIDI Channel 1. It doesn't matter which instrument I'm playing -- whether solo or from THE ORCHESTRA, this never changes. So, on the videos, the keys marked in blue or green adjust per instrument being played/recorded. I'm not getting that. Furthermore, when I change the octave (i.e. String Basses -1 oct, and Low Brass -2 octs -- like on the video), my sound cuts out and simply doesn't play the bottom octave/octaves. I assume these are related, as somehow the keyboard visual isn't tracking with the sound changes.
- Even though I've set Kontakt to make a default of my 16-channel setup (above) it insists on creating dozens more tracks each time I load it. (Does it add 64 new tracks every time?). How to overcome this annoyance?
- In my host (Samplitude Pro X5), I don't have the control I'm expecting. The channels are all forcibly grouped. i.e. No ability to Solo/Mute individual channels within my DAW host (from T.O. - maybe this is normal). I also cannot simply SOLO or MUTE T.O. from my DAW. Soloing doesn't pass any audio.
I am able to Solo/Mute within Kontakt and adjust volumes, etc.
- This group control by Kontakt of all the channels of The Orchestra, means I cannot record any individual instrument (i.e. the channels I've set up 1/2-7/8, and 11/12-16 for single instruments) via MIDI. If I assign the Kontakt channel in Samplitude to MIDI Output ALL, only channel 1 (violins) plays. If I assign the Kontakt channel to MIDI out 3 for example, I can play and hear Cello. But not Record it to MIDI. Ironically, as an Audio Channel, it WILL record directly to Audio.
- Volume anomaly. When I first assign an instrument to output - i.e. Cello via Kontakt MIDI output 3, it comes out CRAZY LOUD! -- i.e. 0dBFS. Then, when I play to record -- the only change being record arming the cello channel, the level drops to -40dBFS! Then it will remain there for awhile. And the next channel I assign will come out at 0dB - screaming. And then drop 40dB after record arming. On and on...
- There is Latency, so rhythmic arpeggiators are a little delayed, and seemingly a bit out of sync with themselves. I am accustomed to latency being auto-compensated between the DAW and the plugin. Do I need to do something manually to overcome latency in T.O.?
Thanks, if I can get these things solved, I'm a good candidate for Upgrading!
Tutorial for The Orchestra and Kontakt 6?
Official support for: bestservice.de
Moderators: bestservice robert, NoSoniX, Lupo81927
Tutorial for The Orchestra and Kontakt 6?
2020-09-03T22:28:03+00:00
I am a newbie to both Kontakt (full version 6) and The Orchestra. First impressions are quite high on The Orchestra, though integration with DAW and Kontakt are awkward. I'm using Samplitude Pro X5 as my host. And Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk2 as my midi keyboard (if that matters -- running in Kontakt, not in KK). Wondering if anyone has put together a tutorial on how to get going effectively?
For Context, In my case, I have my Kontakt outputs set up as:
1 Violins, Violas, Cells, Basses, The ORCHESTRA, Low Brass, French Horns, Oboe (8 stereo, 16 channels, plus 4 Aux) for intended Default usage. See attached.
Kontakt-TheOrch setup (2).png
My challenges have included:
- In The Orchestra.nki, the Kontakt Piano keyboard is only showing the range of the first output (i.e. assigned to 1 Violin, all Articulations) - Output 1-2, MIDI Channel 1. It doesn't matter which instrument I'm playing -- whether solo or from THE ORCHESTRA, this never changes. So, on the videos, the keys marked in blue or green adjust per instrument being played/recorded. I'm not getting that. Furthermore, when I change the octave (i.e. String Basses -1 oct, and Low Brass -2 octs -- like on the video), my sound cuts out and simply doesn't play the bottom octave/octaves. I assume these are related, as somehow the keyboard visual isn't tracking with the sound changes.
- Even though I've set Kontakt to make a default of my 16-channel setup (above) it insists on creating dozens more tracks each time I load it. (Does it add 64 new tracks every time?). How to overcome this annoyance?
- In my host (Samplitude Pro X5), I don't have the control I'm expecting. The channels are all forcibly grouped. i.e. No ability to Solo/Mute individual channels within my DAW host (from T.O. - maybe this is normal). I also cannot simply SOLO or MUTE T.O. from my DAW. Soloing doesn't pass any audio.
I am able to Solo/Mute within Kontakt and adjust volumes, etc.
- This group control by Kontakt of all the channels of The Orchestra, means I cannot record any individual instrument (i.e. the channels I've set up 1/2-7/8, and 11/12-16 for single instruments) via MIDI. If I assign the Kontakt channel in Samplitude to MIDI Output ALL, only channel 1 (violins) plays. If I assign the Kontakt channel to MIDI out 3 for example, I can play and hear Cello. But not Record it to MIDI. Ironically, as an Audio Channel, it WILL record directly to Audio.
- Volume anomaly. When I first assign an instrument to output - i.e. Cello via Kontakt MIDI output 3, it comes out CRAZY LOUD! -- i.e. 0dBFS. Then, when I play to record -- the only change being record arming the cello channel, the level drops to -40dBFS! Then it will remain there for awhile. And the next channel I assign will come out at 0dB - screaming. And then drop 40dB after record arming. On and on...
- There is Latency, so rhythmic arpeggiators are a little delayed, and seemingly a bit out of sync with themselves. I am accustomed to latency being auto-compensated between the DAW and the plugin. Do I need to do something manually to overcome latency in T.O.?
Thanks, if I can get these things solved, I'm a good candidate for Upgrading!
Psalmist91
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=313144
-
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 9 posts since 24 Sep, 2013 from California
Post by Psalmist91 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:28 pm
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Jump to
- The Main Forums
- ↳ KVR Studio Manager
- ↳ KVR Experts
- ↳ Getting Started (AKA What is the best...?)
- ↳ Instruments
- ↳ Effects
- ↳ Hosts & Applications (Sequencers, DAWs, Audio Editors, etc.)
- ↳ Guitars
- ↳ Mobile Apps and Hardware
- ↳ Soundware
- ↳ Samplers, Sampling & Sample Libraries
- ↳ Hardware (Instruments and Effects)
- ↳ Modular Synthesis
- ↳ Sound Design
- ↳ Production Techniques
- ↳ Music Theory
- ↳ Computer Setup and System Configuration
- ↳ DSP and Plugin Development
- ↳ DIY: Build it and they will come
- ↳ Music Cafe
- ↳ Sell & Buy (+Special Offers, Deals & Promos)
- ↳ KVR Developer Challenge 2023
- ↳ Everything Else (Music related)
- ↳ Off Topic
- ↳ Off Topic Classics
- Official Company Forums
- ↳ 2getheraudio
- ↳ accSone
- ↳ Acon Digital
- ↳ AcousticsampleS
- ↳ AcousModules
- ↳ Agitated State
- ↳ AIR Music Technology
- ↳ AMG
- ↳ Ample Sound
- ↳ Antares Audio Technologies
- ↳ Apisonic Labs
- ↳ apulSoft
- ↳ AriesCode
- ↳ Arts Acoustic
- ↳ Arturia
- ↳ Audjoo
- ↳ AudioSpillage
- ↳ Audiority
- ↳ Best Service
- ↳ Big Tick
- ↳ Bitwig
- ↳ Controller Scripting
- ↳ Blue Cat Audio
- ↳ Cherry Audio
- ↳ CWITEC
- ↳ Embertone
- ↳ energyXT
- ↳ Eventide
- ↳ Expert Sleepers
- ↳ forward audio
- ↳ Future Audio Workshop
- ↳ FXpansion
- ↳ g200kg
- ↳ Harrison Mixbus
- ↳ HG Fortune
- ↳ Homegrown Sounds
- ↳ HoRNet Plugins
- ↳ Ilya Efimov Production
- ↳ Image Line
- ↳ Impact Soundworks
- ↳ Indiginus
- ↳ Insert Piz Here
- ↳ Ju-X
- ↳ Kirk Hunter Studios
- ↳ Kirnu
- ↳ Kong Audio
- ↳ Krotos
- ↳ Kuassa
- ↳ KV331 Audio
- ↳ LennarDigital
- ↳ Les Productions Zvon
- ↳ Liqube Audio
- ↳ Loomer
- ↳ LVC-Audio
- ↳ Maizesoft
- ↳ Manytone Music
- ↳ MeldaProduction
- ↳ Mellowmuse
- ↳ MIDIMood
- ↳ moForte
- ↳ Mozaic Beats
- ↳ mucoder
- ↳ MusicDevelopments
- ↳ Tips & Tricks
- ↳ MusicLab
- ↳ MUTOOLS
- ↳ New Sonic Arts
- ↳ NUSofting
- ↳ Oli Larkin Plugins
- ↳ Orange Tree Samples
- ↳ patchpool
- ↳ Photosounder
- ↳ PlugInGuru
- ↳ Polyverse Music
- ↳ Precisionsound
- ↳ Premier Sound Factory
- ↳ Psychic Modulation
- ↳ Realitone
- ↳ Resonance-Sound
- ↳ Reveal Sound
- ↳ Roger Linn Design
- ↳ rs-met
- ↳ S3A: Spatial Audio
- ↳ SaschArt
- ↳ Smart Electronix
- ↳ sonible
- ↳ SonicBirth
- ↳ Sonic Reality / eSoundz.com
- ↳ Soundiron
- ↳ SPC Plugins
- ↳ Sugar Bytes
- ↳ TAL Software
- ↳ Tokyo Dawn Labs
- ↳ Tracktion
- ↳ u-he
- ↳ u-he Linux support
- ↳ United Plugins
- ↳ VAZ Synths
- ↳ Virharmonic
- ↳ Wolfgang Palm
- ↳ xoxos
- ↳ XSRDO - SynthCraft
- ↳ ZynAddSubFX
- Site Stuff
- ↳ Site Stuff
- Archived Forums
- ↳ AlgoMusic
- ↳ easytoolz
- ↳ Elevayta
- ↳ Hollow Sun
- ↳ Kazrog
- ↳ LinPlug
- ↳ Muse Research and Development
- ↳ Shuriken
- ↳ SoHa Sound Design
- ↳ Soniccouture
- ↳ Topten Software
- ↳ Tweakbench
- ↳ Valhalla DSP
- ↳ CK Modules & VST
- ↳ Sennheiser AMBEO
- ↳ Muon Software
- ↳ Westgatesounds.net
- ↳ Squaredheads
- ↳ Sonigen
- ↳ CFA-Sound
- ↳ Back In Time Records
- ↳ Livelab.dk
- ↳ Skytopia
- ↳ audioD3CK
- ↳ Inspire Audio
- ↳ Krakli
- ↳ Drumdrops
- ↳ Futucraft
- ↳ OverTone DSP
- ↳ RaXnTraX
- ↳ solar3d-software
- ↳ Signaldust
- ↳ Soundemote
- KVR Forum index
- All times are UTC
- Delete cookies