Can anything compete with DIVA or Repro in 2020?!
- KVRAF
- 2373 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
They are 2 of the best sounding synths, no doubt. I can happily use TAL, and Arturia too though.
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- KVRAF
- 11163 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
It’s obviously all subjective, I own them both but rarely use them as I am just bored of the sound of simple subtractive synths with fairly limited modulation…I much prefer modern synths not tied to old hardware paradigms. I find hybrid synths that have the option to mix VA, FM, Samples and WT much more useful and interesting…Zebra HZ is still the UHE synth I use the most…looking forward to 3!
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- KVRAF
- 14988 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I picked up HZ when it came out too. It’s really nice having those filters, although a bit clumsily tacked on. No osc mod input. I hope those things are resolved in v3, which seems to be only a few decades away. I’m sure they’ll get to it as soon as they release a few more Eurorack modules.SLiC wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 6:51 am It’s obviously all subjective, I own them both but rarely use them as I am just bored of the sound of simple subtractive synths with fairly limited modulation…I much prefer modern synths not tied to old hardware paradigms. I find hybrid synths that have the option to mix VA, FM, Samples and WT much more useful and interesting…Zebra HZ is still the UHE synth I use the most…looking forward to 3!
But having it, and later a Prophet 6, I sold my Diva license. I wasn’t using it that much and it seemed like I had everything covered… but then I bought it a second time during a NI sale. It’s simple, but it does have some tricks up it’s sleeve. The modifier section is pretty unique in the synth world, and I think it doesn’t really get talked about enough. It probably doesn’t get used that much either. Probably due to it being poorly implemented. Who wants to look at a display that says your filter is being modulated by “add?”
Anyway, I’m looking forward to a new Zebra, but I’m also interested in a new Diva. It’s been a long time since we saw a new version of that. I’d love to see a version that has an Ultra-Devine mode, where audio rate modulation would sound better. I’d love to see a few more classic filters and oscillator modules. (A PPG Wave oscillator and filter would be awesome.) I’d love for a few more LFOs and envelopes and a mod matrix. I’m not holding my breath, though. I suspect we’ll see a lot more Eurorack development before we see Zebra 3 or Diva 2.
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- u-he
- 28063 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Those things are connected.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 1:45 pmI suspect we’ll see a lot more Eurorack development before we see Zebra 3 or Diva 2.
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- KVRAF
- 11519 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Not knowing how to use the Modifier section has been an issue for me for over a decade now. I have no idea how to get the most out of that section. Or really do much of anything with it. I've been through the manual a few times but that one just never connects with me.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 1:45 pm The modifier section is pretty unique in the synth world, and I think it doesn’t really get talked about enough. It probably doesn’t get used that much either. Probably due to it being poorly implemented. Who wants to look at a display that says your filter is being modulated by “add?”
It would be great if someone could do about a 20-minute video that explains how to use the Modifiers with practical examples.
...I do hope 2024 or 2025 brings us a Diva 2 with a proper mod matrix that is more easily digestible.
- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
Urs wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 2:07 pmThose things are connected.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 1:45 pmI suspect we’ll see a lot more Eurorack development before we see Zebra 3 or Diva 2.
Such a tease!
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- KVRAF
- 18558 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
I think it's safe to say that digging up a two year old thread just to start up an argument again is a senseless waste of time. Especially since the OP is banned.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 5:11 am I think it’s safe to say that what the OP (now banned) was asking was “can anything compete with Diva and Repro in 2020 in the vintage analog synth emulation category.”
Certainly there is something more up to date we can argue about ?
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- KVRAF
- 35424 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
And I think it's safe to say "yes" to the original question.Teksonik wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 3:11 pmI think it's safe to say that digging up a two year old thread just to start up an argument again is a senseless waste of time. Especially since the OP is banned.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 5:11 am I think it’s safe to say that what the OP (now banned) was asking was “can anything compete with Diva and Repro in 2020 in the vintage analog synth emulation category.”
Whyever anyone would ask such a silly question.
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
fine then...I can fix this.
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