Fragile Gods - "The Words I Never Said"

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KVRAF
5699 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:31 pm

Dark sentiments in a synthpop package. Aika Zabala's harmonies lift the gloom.

https://youtu.be/OVpH3WVztg0

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/2v6OonwVyhEoWD4GIQ7wKh

Instruments used: Hive, Repro5, Monark, Rayblaster, BFD3

Any feedback is appreciated. The lyrics are on Soundcloud. Thanks for listening.

Edits
Nov 22 - Video added.
Last edited by Frantz on Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:30 pm, edited 5 times in total.

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KVRAF
11459 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

Post Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:12 pm

Great lyrics! Relatable. Super wide sound stage! I've been making my mixes more and more claustrophobic lately, but I always appreciate a nice spacious mix.

Great work as always. Thanks for sharing!

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KVRAF
2130 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

Post Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:38 pm

Your voice and singing are so cool (backup vocal is great, too). When you put delay on the end of a lead vocal line--I liked it. I wondered at one point what it would sound like if you worked in more reverb on the lead vocal here and there, but that's my amateur self just wondering. I dig it.
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KVRist
138 posts since 13 Jun, 2015

Post Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:19 pm

Very nice. I feel the main voice is out from the music, it needs integration. Effects.
:tu:

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KVRian
1269 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:32 am

Dark sentiments indeed! The lyrics worked well with the music for me.
I feel the main voice is out from the music, it needs integration.
I agree that male vocal is pushed quite far forward in front of the mix, but I seriously think that it works there...wasn't sure on the first listen, but on the second I became more positive.

There are no rules for what works in terms of mixing in vocals, just guidelines... and, even now after doing this shebang for over 30 years, it always amazes me how some things work with one song and just suck in another.

Lead vocal performance - works really well on this one, particularly liked the timing of it all and its flow.

Song structure is strong... rises and falls between verse and chorus appropriately with a great contrasting section.

My only issue was with the instrumental backing track - great choice of sounds and generally well mixed, but possibly just a little bit flat dynamically? It's certainly got an excellent stereo presence, but maybe is a little lacking in variety from front to back of the mix? (No biggy here as it didn't detract from the listen)
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KVRAF
7679 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Post Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:58 am

quailty work as usual Frantz ol chap. catchy and solid mix and production, imho.
i love the phrase "words i never said, echo in my head" .... if you
never said them how can they be echoing? lol. brilliant!
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KVRian
692 posts since 3 Jul, 2017

Post Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:23 am

You managed to catch this typical 80s UK sound (like Psychedelic Furs eg.) esp. regarding the vocals. Dark indeed, some sentiment leftover from Pop music eruptions from the last century. Good work - always wondering about the junction of accoustic drums and synth arpeggios, which marks a unique style maybe.

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KVRAF
1548 posts since 19 Aug, 2008

Post Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:40 pm

Very good! Mix was excellent. Vocal melody was very interesting.
1:54 very nice refrain.
Is this a more acoustic drumkit than you normally use?
Ending was good too.

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KVRAF

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5699 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:21 am

justin3am wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:12 pm
Great lyrics! Relatable. Super wide sound stage! I've been making my mixes more and more claustrophobic lately, but I always appreciate a nice spacious mix.

Great work as always. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it and liked the lyrics.

Aika sang many harmonies on this so I spread her vox across the sound stage. I don't recall doing anything out of the ordinary with the synths in the mix other than keeping things sparse so there is plenty of room for individual sounds to breathe.

Thanks for your comments. :)

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KVRAF

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5699 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:23 am

Dirtgrain wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:38 pm
Your voice and singing are so cool (backup vocal is great, too). When you put delay on the end of a lead vocal line--I liked it. I wondered at one point what it would sound like if you worked in more reverb on the lead vocal here and there, but that's my amateur self just wondering. I dig it.
I might go back and add a little reverb on the lead vocals. They are fairly upfront and dry. Thanks for listening and providing helpful feedback. :tu:

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KVRAF

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5699 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:25 pm

Unreflected wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:19 pm
Very nice. I feel the main voice is out from the music, it needs integration. Effects.
:tu:
Thanks for your comments. I may slightly tweak the reverb level on the male vocals this weekend.

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KVRAF
5047 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania

Post Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:30 am

No .mp3 this time?

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KVRAF

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5699 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:29 am

e@rs wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:30 am
No .mp3 this time?
I wasn't sure if anyone was interested in an MP3. Here it is:
FragileGods_TheWordsINeverSaid.mp3
Last edited by Frantz on Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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83 posts since 7 Nov, 2020

Post Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:51 am

retro 80s pop - very catchy.
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KVRist
323 posts since 20 Mar, 2019

Post Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:43 pm

Quality production for sure. Do you release any of these tracks on any labels or... Do you do all the sound design? What is your studio like? The track reminds me of a mix of Duran Duran, Bengals, David Bowie, and a James Bond movie.

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