Unless you want to go "full-on" PPG for a tune (and if you're trying to emulate Tangerine Dream, you might want to go full-on PPG), you won't really notice any of the "limitations"...except for the very small GUI. I have the PPG 2 LE version and it was fine for me for years. I only went to the PPG Wave 3.V version because it was $19.99...or free, I don't remember.ghostwhistler wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:37 pmThanks for clarifying. I'm not sure if I need more than 1 MIDI channel. Is that something I ought be concerned about? I just assign a vst to the track in my DAW and go.Etienne1973 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:11 pmghostwhistler wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:35 pmI'm not sure I understand the diferences between the LE version and the 'full' version. What do you mean by a limtied attack? Does that mean you can only set the attack speed of a sound to a certain degree? that seems a bit odd so that can' tbe right.
There are 3 Waldorf PPG Wave product versions you can choose from:
- Waldorf PPG Wave 3.V
- Waldorf PPG Wave 2.V Full (part of Edition 2 bundle)
- Waldorf PPG Wave 2.V LE (part of Edition 2 LE bundle)
Waldorf Edition 2 LE for €19.90 consists of 3 individual plugins:
- Waldorf Attack LE (Drum Synth)
- Waldorf 2-Pole (Filter Effect)
- Waldorf PPG Wave 2.V LE
Waldorf PPG Wave 2.V LE has the following limitations compared to the Waldorf PPG Wave 2.V Full:
- 1 MIDI channel (Full: 8 )
- 8 Voice polyphony (Full: 64)
- 1 Stereo Output (Full: 2)
- No possible upgrade to PPG Wave 3.V in Waldorf webshop (Full: Upgrade possible)
Source: https://waldorfmusic.com/en/waldorf-edi ... -editionle
8 note polyphony seems fine, how many didi the original instrument have? I don't think I have anything I use at more than that anyway. Mainly because it's heavy on the CPU. Besides I find unison lines with loads of voices get a bit out of hand.
Again, how many stereo outputs does one need?
I've seen the LE version for a few bucks on knobcloud (that name will never stop making me snigger).
The freebie emulation has decent sounds but the interface isn't intuitive. There's no tutorial I can find.
I have the PPG demo, the interface isn't much better. It's ridiclously small.
I have Hive which does wavetables. I've never really made use of them before. Know nothing about them really. I want the PPG because I liked the sounds it got when used by Tangerine Dream. If this LE version has those presets (if any are) then great. If there's something that can do those sounds better then I'd like to know.ecasasmusic2 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:24 pm The main limitation of Waldorf PPG 3 is the small dated GUI. The preset browser is from the stone age and everything is small and not very atractive for tweaking. It's a plugin from ten years ago, with no significant updates. I have it, and the sounds are OK but nothing special IMHO, compared with the sounds you can get with any wavetable synth from today. I understand the nostalgic factor for people who wants that specific sound, but I never would pay the full price for this.
The preset system does suck, and the original presets aren't named -- they're only numbered (you can rename them though). This could make matching something with what someone else used rather difficult. But from everything I've read, it does come with the original presets. That said, I doubt Tangerine Dream used the default presets, especially considering they helped develop some of PPG's products. They almost certainly had the tools to create their own waves. That said, there are also dozens of other sounds for it floating around, if you want them.
The PPG Wave 3.V can (supposedly) emulate the output of the original hardware's 2.3 and 2.2 versions. (The 2.3 version had 12-bit waves; the 2.2 version had 8-bit waves.) It's also multi-timbral. But the same presets loaded in it don't necessarily sound the same as they do in PPG Wave 2.xV, even if you change the "PPG Wave Mode" in 3.V to "match" the 2.2V VST.
Steve