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Erisian
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Post Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:30 am

Big thank you to kraftraum. :tu:

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muki
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1455 posts since 14 Jul, 2018

Post Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:26 am

out of curiosity:
where (on mac os) is the startup bank located ?

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Full Bucket
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887 posts since 25 May, 2010 from Hessisch Uganda, Germany

Post Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:36 am

Nowhere, it is "inside" the plug-in (I was almost saying "in the ROM" :hihi:).

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melomood
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9097 posts since 15 Oct, 2017 from U.S.

Post Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:59 am

Full Bucket wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:02 am kraftraum has just released his WhispAir Preset Pack, a massive collection of 114 presets! :clap:

Get it exclusively from the WhispAir website.

Cheers, Björn
much appreciated
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muki
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1455 posts since 14 Jul, 2018

Post Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:35 am

Full Bucket wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:36 am Nowhere, it is "inside" the plug-in (I was almost saying "in the ROM" :hihi:).
thanks for the info

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Full Bucket
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887 posts since 25 May, 2010 from Hessisch Uganda, Germany

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:27 am

WhispAir is updated to version 1.0.4:
  • improved plug-in load time
  • added a new wave table 8)
https://www.fullbucket.de/music/whispair.html

Cheers, Björn

hockinsk3
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181 posts since 28 Nov, 2009

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:34 am

I just realised there's a page for Whispair dev here.
I think there's a bug in the filter EG when playing chords with repeating notes. The EG is fully open and a slow attack is set, but if the next chord contains the same note repeated, Whispair treats its filter as one held note, even though the sequencer isn't holding the note. It's not repeatable in another synth using the same midi clip. The workaround is to shorten the notes so the first note ends maybe 0.0.0.4 before the next starts. But as you can see the issue doesn't materialize on notes not repeating so Whispair's behaviour isn't consistent, or am I missing something why a repeating note ignores the filter EG attack but a non-repeating doesn't?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79w196U3t8M

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Full Bucket
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887 posts since 25 May, 2010 from Hessisch Uganda, Germany

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:57 am

Switch to "Multi Trig."

hockinsk3
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181 posts since 28 Nov, 2009

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:26 am

Using Multi Trig on the Filter EG or Amp EG doesn't make any difference, unfortunately, same issue. The issue occurs on many of the presets too with an attacking filter like this and adjacent notes in a chord progression.
https://youtu.be/sHmZvYRPBoU

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Full Bucket
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887 posts since 25 May, 2010 from Hessisch Uganda, Germany

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:56 am

I will see what I can do.

hockinsk3
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181 posts since 28 Nov, 2009

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:00 am

Just thought, if I negate the Filter EG Intensity, you can then very clearly hear the filter? open within the duplicated note, but not on a changing note when in multi trigger mode.
https://youtu.be/8FeOl5Misbk

ElVincente
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393 posts since 22 Jun, 2019

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:17 am

Maybe it's me but I think polyaftertouch is unusable because way to sensitive with a lot of the mod destinations.
Otherwise it's a really great synth! I'm really digging how the sync am and fm interact with the wavetables. Cheers to you Bjorn!

hockinsk3
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181 posts since 28 Nov, 2009

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:29 am

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hockinsk3
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:30 am

I don't think it's polyaftertouch-related, these chords are just drawn in, not played. I don't see an issue when just loosely playing chords from the keyboard because the chord notes will have a gap between them then. It seems to be just multiple notes triggering isn't working when one note end is flush against the same note repeated. A weird one, but easily resolved by just shortening the note lengths by a fraction. Could be Bitwig-related, but I've never experienced it before.

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Full Bucket
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887 posts since 25 May, 2010 from Hessisch Uganda, Germany

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:50 am

It is not a bug but works as I designed it (talking about the envelope behaviour here):

If an incoming note is already played by a voice of WhispAir, the voice scheduler assigns it to the same voice again. The envelope of that voice restarts and catches up the current envelope level (same way as an analog envelope would do).
Now if a Note Off and a Note On event arrive at the same time, the envelope has no time to enter the Release phase, and thus its output will catch up and remain at the same level - it simply cannot drop to zero.

"Workaround": Give WhispAir a lil' bit time between Note Off and On, i.e. shorten the note events a tiny bit.

Cheers, Björn

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