Reason 12 update out (12.2.2)

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KVRAF
8255 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:29 am

Little one...but welcome!

Added additional high resolution graphic resources
Fixed a bug where parts of transport bar had the wrong colors in dark mode
Some improvements to stability when searching in browser
Fixed an issue that could happen when you had duplicate ReFills
Fixed a bug where Reason crashed when loading corrupt rx2 files
New version of Mimic including a bunch of bug fixes.
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KVRAF
10742 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:41 am

...and updated roadmap: https://www.reasonstudios.com/blog/road ... ct-officer

BTW, is this guy replacing Mattias / @anosou? Wearing "his" shirt for the photo seems like a passive-aggressive dig.
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8255 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:50 am

Sounds like a few new devices inbound early next year (bassline generator/player ands a new FX)

I hope whilst they are looking at hardware integration they add proper Komplete Kontrol keyboard support, it must be the only DAW without it?
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KVRAF
3431 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:25 am

Let's Moan About the Sequencer!, luckily I don't have to ... https://forum.reasontalk.com/viewtopic. ... &t=7514062 I totally agree on sentences like this
Then imagine a diehard Cubase user giving the standalone experience a spin for the first time. What a fiasco. Nothing but a list of over 100 questions on how to do basic workflow things with nothing but "can't" answers anywhere they ask.
- https://forum.reasontalk.com/viewtopic. ... 51#p466851
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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KVRAF
10742 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:48 am

xbitz wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:25 am
Let's Moan About the Sequencer!, luckily I don't have to ... https://forum.reasontalk.com/viewtopic. ... &t=7514062 I totally agree on sentences like this
Then imagine a diehard Cubase user giving the standalone experience a spin for the first time. What a fiasco. Nothing but a list of over 100 questions on how to do basic workflow things with nothing but "can't" answers anywhere they ask.
- https://forum.reasontalk.com/viewtopic. ... 51#p466851
I have dozens of questions to Cubase users how to do basic workflow things I do in Bitwig or Reason and the answer would similarly be a strong and resounding "you can't".

For me, except for the lack of folder tracks and inability to extend/shorten MIDI notes with keyboard Reason's sequencer is pretty much enough. And they're far from being a deal breaker.
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KVRAF
3431 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:23 am

I would add folders first then marker tracks
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but the others are useful too http://soundpeaks.net/blog/cubase-hotkeys-with-examples, anyway it would work at least on the level of Bitwig (sequencer part)

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I can't imagine why R still needs new devices
New devices 

It is always part of our plan to release several creative devices during a year. And we are always eager to listen to you guys on what you are missing or what you have dreamt of. Please reach out to us on social media!
:roll: (how I like the marketing-driven development)

ps.
glad to know they’re still working on more devices. the seven thousand devices we’ve already got in Reason just aren’t enough!
- https://forum.reasontalk.com/viewtopic. ... 36#p585036 :lol: +1
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8255 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:43 am

Reason has to develop new instruments and FX in the same way NI and Arturia do...they sell a 'collection' of instruments and FX (the rack) to use in any DAW and they also sell subscription, so obviously they need to add new stuff....Obviously the sequencer should also be developed, but Reason is as much (maybe more) about 'the Rack' as it is the sequencer, its the only real USP for Reason....with all the CV instruments and 'players' I often use Reason more like a modular set up, and it does that better than most DAWS.
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KVRer
11 posts since 30 Jul, 2014

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:07 am

They have Peter "Pelle" Jubel in the team. He's a true DSP specialist who engineered the original Clavia Nord Lead, as well as the algorithms in previous high profile Propellerhead synths. DSP programming is an art of its own, and using him for general programming tasks (such as improving the sequencer) would be a waste of resources, in my opinion. I also doubt that he would enjoy it.

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KVRAF
10742 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:54 am

Marth wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:07 am
They have Peter "Pelle" Jubel in the team. He's a true DSP specialist who engineered the original Clavia Nord Lead, as well as the algorithms in previous high profile Propellerhead synths. DSP programming is an art of its own, and using him for general programming tasks (such as improving the sequencer) would be a waste of resources, in my opinion. I also doubt that he would enjoy it.
Are you implying he's the only programmer in Reason Studios? Hope not ;)
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KVRAF
4425 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Stockholm, Sweden

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:56 am

I would pay a reasonable fee for a HD update to Reason Intro 11 (I use the rack quite a lot) and an upgrade to the full version of the soundbank for the included instruments, but yeah neither of those things is ever gonna happen. :clown:

KVRer
11 posts since 30 Jul, 2014

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:38 am

antic604 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:54 am
Are you implying he's the only programmer in Reason Studios? Hope not ;)
Hehe, I must learn to quote properly. To clarify, it was a response to this:
xbitz wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:23 am
I can't imagine why R still needs new devices
xbitz wrote: glad to know they’re still working on more devices. the seven thousand devices we’ve already got in Reason just aren’t enough!
My point is that they are working on devices because they have a true DSP specialist in the team.

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KVRAF
3042 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:59 am

Marth wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:07 am
They have Peter "Pelle" Jubel in the team. He's a true DSP specialist who engineered the original Clavia Nord Lead, as well as the algorithms in previous high profile Propellerhead synths. DSP programming is an art of its own, and using him for general programming tasks (such as improving the sequencer) would be a waste of resources, in my opinion. I also doubt that he would enjoy it.
Yeah that would be waste of resources.
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KVRAF
3042 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:16 pm

xbitz wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:25 am
Let's Moan About the Sequencer!, luckily I don't have to ... https://forum.reasontalk.com/viewtopic. ... &t=7514062 I totally agree on sentences like this
Then imagine a diehard Cubase user giving the standalone experience a spin for the first time. What a fiasco. Nothing but a list of over 100 questions on how to do basic workflow things with nothing but "can't" answers anywhere they ask.
- https://forum.reasontalk.com/viewtopic. ... 51#p466851
That person is moaning about the rack of all things? Cubase users would probably find the rack extremely easy to use. If you know how to wire up signal cables in a studio then you can use the Reason rack. They use Reason for teaching signal flow and patching in many beginner music courses. Reason's one of the oldest DAWs and a lot of people use it as a second DAW or plugin instrument rack.
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KVRAF
32946 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:42 pm

HD seems almost complete - just the blurry icons in the browser that I can see

KVRAF
21339 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:22 pm

Nothing in this update that would interest me as a Reason DAW user in any ever-so-slightly way....
I guess now it's official that they indeed abandoned the DAW for good, whatever kind of trash-talking they may ever stoop down to (anything goes with their current CEO, as we had to learn).

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