Korg Wavestate and Opsix for Win/Mac

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danatkorg
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46 posts since 8 Sep, 2005

Post Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:51 pm

steff3 wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:14 pm So, and now, does this update also show up in the Korg installer app (Korg Software Pass) ? I guess, that is developed by another team which then needs a trigger from a server developed by another team ... updates that are not accessible seem to have zero customer value .... Not sure why companies opt for such a convoluted process as it easily lights up weaknesses ....
Hi Steff! As above, several users reported a problem, so I requested that the update be removed pending our investigation of what was going on. Sorry for the confusion.
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Astrin
KVRist
67 posts since 27 Feb, 2011

Post Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:17 pm

Biome_Digital wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:29 pm
bnz wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:08 am Is it just me or is opsix native pretty unpolished at least on Windows?
- UI is sluggish as hell
- It comes only as VST3 plugin and suggests C:\Program Files\VSTPlugins as a placement folder by default (which is where most DAWs don't look for VST3 plugins). It took a while until a realized I had to point the installer to Common Files\VST3 in order for my DAWs to even find it.
- When I tried to uninstall and reinstall it to find out whether I did something wrong, I didn't find it in the programs listing under KORG where all the other Korg plugins are. It took me a while to realize it may be listed under opsix and not under Korg.
- ...

The weirdest thing is: everything opsix native does wrong (in my eyes), wavestate native does right. Proper UI, proper proper UI coloring (who still makes such an eye-soring white background nowadays), proper plugin folder placement, proper preset browser (with categories, author and details visible).
Very sluggish and laggy, yes. Not bothered about the white GUI though. It does seem like it needs an update really quickly!
Oh thank Heavens I'm not not going crazy. All this stuff about Korg putting the plugins in the wrong directory and the sluggishness! At first I thought that's way the response was so bad because the vst 3 was in the 'wrong' place. But nope. I installed opsix native on my macbook pro m1 max and it worked smoothly and perfectly. Man, they rushed this thing out the door on the windows side. And the wavestate app seems to work with the hardware but not the opsix app with its hardware. Argggh!
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kritikon
KVRAF
6257 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:04 am

c_huelsbeck wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:10 am I still think it's a denormal issue... the fact that turning off the FX sections makes it go away is a very strong indicator. Hopefully there will be an update from Korg soon. I had to resort to freezing tracks again in order to work with Wavestate... I'm using a Thinkpad P52 workstation laptop with a hexa-core i7-8850H / 32gb and nVidia Quadro P2000 / 4gb.
I saw this and tried it...turning everything off makes no difference at all. I turned off preFX, FX, even all of the parts and it still uses 50% CPU on the Cubase activity monitor at idle. Still usable for me, but I'd probably have to render/freeze to actually use it seriously in a track. Fortunately I've got both hw versions so I'll happily continue to use those. Maybe do some programming on the native versions and transfer patches over to the hw for serious work. It doesn't bother me too much, but I suspect if I'd bought them purely as sw with no hw I'd be pretty peeved. And with any kind of old/under-powered PC or lappie it must be unworkable.

Having said that, I do think Korg will likely fix it and fairly quickly. They released an update already and with the hw OS they were coming out with updates pretty often...Wavestate had 5 or 6 OS upgrades IIRC. Definitely not a release and ignore scenario.

steff3
KVRian
599 posts since 7 Oct, 2006

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:56 am

danatkorg wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:51 pm
Hi Steff! As above, several users reported a problem, so I requested that the update be removed pending our investigation of what was going on. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks for the clarification. Looking forward to the next version.

greententacle
KVRist
259 posts since 30 Nov, 2008

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:27 am

danatkorg wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:50 pm
greententacle wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:07 pm
danatkorg wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:32 pm Do you mean user presets, or *all* presets? (The latter can be a problem with permissions.) If it's your own user presets, first, I'm really sorry about that. Can you let me know what OS and hardware you're using?
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Can you let me know what OS and hardware you're using?
windows 10 intel i7

greententacle
KVRist
259 posts since 30 Nov, 2008

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:30 am

was my fault, should have backup those presets, although I've never had that problem with other software. and it's seems like it is mentioned in the installer.🤦🏻

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trackbout
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351 posts since 29 Apr, 2019

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:54 am

I feel like there should be separate threads for the Wavestate and the Opsix since there are obv people that care about one but not the other. This thread should prob just be renamed to Korg Wavestate since it's got important Wavestate info in it, and then we can make a new one for the Opsix that will get zero support from Korg. 😂

Gribs
KVRian
1085 posts since 9 Feb, 2007 from San Ramon, California

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:42 am

trackbout wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:54 am I feel like there should be separate threads for the Wavestate and the Opsix since there are obv people that care about one but not the other. This thread should prob just be renamed to Korg Wavestate since it's got important Wavestate info in it, and then we can make a new one for the Opsix that will get zero support from Korg. 😂
We keep asking about the OpSix, too, but yeah... crickets.
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zvenx
KVRAF
11106 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:50 am

That's probably because no one from Korg's OpSix group is here. And it not even being an unofficial Korg Thread or Forum, not unexpected.
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trackbout
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351 posts since 29 Apr, 2019

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:07 am

Ya either way, they should each have their own thread no?

kritikon
KVRAF
6257 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:29 am

Dunno...they both seem to have the same issues, released at the same time, part of the same group (as with the hw), so it makes sense to be in the same thread. The main weird thing is why they didn't release Modwave as Native also at the same time and then we could whinge about 3 plugins instead of 2 :shrug:

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zvenx
KVRAF
11106 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:04 am

trackbout wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:07 am Ya either way, they should each have their own thread no?
At this point yes..
I figured since they were released at the same time, some kind kvr person just created this to announce them, then it took on a life of its own :)
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trackbout
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351 posts since 29 Apr, 2019

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:02 pm

Ya I mean, Dan made it clear they are two completely different development teams that don't interact with each other, so they will have different issues, different updates, different Korg reps communicating or not communicating, and obviously they are completely different plugins that do different things. I don't know if there's a way to ping moderators or if the O.P. can just rename the thread, but it seems like the way to go at this point.

jdoo
KVRian
613 posts since 23 Dec, 2011

Post Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:09 pm

Hopefully Korg will come up a way of rewarding existing Korg AU/Software customers with a better deal than they’re offering anyone and everyone with a pulse (who didn’t have their hardware versions). Maybe black friday? I like Wavestate, but hard pass on the price. Anyway - running the “Uninstall” from Software pass… deleted the wavestate executable- but left behind 2GB+ of stuff in my Users/Shared/KORG/wavestate native directories. The files are not in a usable format — so I would have preferred them to be deleted when I uninstalled it. Just a heads up. The uninstall program leaves crap behind.

Joe

bnz
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87 posts since 12 Mar, 2004

Post Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:18 am

There is an opsix update 1.0.1 available. Unfortunately, it does not fix my slugishness issues. At least I think it doesn't behave a lot different, the waveform visualization still hangs a lot.

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