Played with 1.0.3 for a bit. CPU usage is significantly reduced on my late 2015 iMac. Much more reasonable now.beely wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 2:02 am According to Dan, opsix has been updated to 1.0.3, which fixes the cpu issues, particularly on Apple silicon. Should be in Korg Software Pass now... it's had a similar audio reworking to the recent wavestate update, and the effects should be equally as dramatic as regards CPU use.
Korg Wavestate and Opsix for Win/Mac
- KVRian
- 710 posts since 9 Apr, 2005 from Japan
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- KVRist
- 117 posts since 12 Mar, 2004
I haven't installed the final version yet, but had access to a beta version for the last week. My Windows issues with sluggish graphics have also been fixed in that version. Thumbs up!
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Yes the CPU is lower, but what about these graphics glitches?! (Ableton Live 11)Arashi wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 4:34 amPlayed with 1.0.3 for a bit. CPU usage is significantly reduced on my late 2015 iMac. Much more reasonable now.beely wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 2:02 am According to Dan, opsix has been updated to 1.0.3, which fixes the cpu issues, particularly on Apple silicon. Should be in Korg Software Pass now... it's had a similar audio reworking to the recent wavestate update, and the effects should be equally as dramatic as regards CPU use.
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- Banned
- 88 posts since 3 May, 2022
I'm not sure if you are joking. But seriously, the arpeggiator is "what makes or breaks a synth" for you? Fascinating.Boy Wonder wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 11:20 pm It is interesting what people look for in synths. Fascinating, really. To me, what makes or breaks a synth is its arpeggiator functions - if it has one, that is. I use them a lot, and the more complex, the better.
You do realize that for the most part the arpeggiator that comes with your DAW is usually more sophisticated than the one that would be featured in a hardware (or software) synth? There are exceptions of course. The arpeggiator in Omnisphere v2 is pretty slick, for instance.
- KVRian
- 576 posts since 30 Jan, 2021
The two arpeggiators in Cubase 12, Arpache and ArpacheSX, are cool but they're missing a couple of elements I like such as swing, octaves, as well as volume, gate, tie, pitch and ratcheting for each step in a 16-or-32 step sequence. Cream on the top would be if the arpeggiator was locked to a specific key.
If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit.
- KVRAF
- 8828 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
I have no idea why any synth dev should waist development time for such a sophisticated arpeggiator. It is way better to have this separate as this has the advantage that you only need to learn one… There are enough arps out there to get you covered for the rest of your life and all of your synths…Boy Wonder wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 10:35 am The two arpeggiators in Cubase 12, Arpache and ArpacheSX, are cool but they're missing a couple of elements I like such as swing, octaves, as well as volume, gate, tie, pitch and ratcheting for each step in a 16-or-32 step sequence. Cream on the top would be if the arpeggiator was locked to a specific key.
The built in arps are just there to sell the shit with juicy presets. They don‘t need to be sophisticated for that and I would even prefer that the synth comes without an arp, then I don‘t have to skip all presets with arps…
- KVRian
- 576 posts since 30 Jan, 2021
^Exactly, which is why after demoing Kirnu Cream, BlueArp, Stochas, the HY stuff, LibreArp, RandARP and a few others, I've sort of settled into Riffer. It's fairly stable even when used in Patchwork.
If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit.
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- KVRAF
- 2641 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
Korg currently have summer sale , up to 50% off, wavestate native and opsix native are 149.... Still no special discount for korg collection owners. I will wait to see black friday price.
Downloaded the demos :
opsix use much cpu - is this okay? I have a very strong pc (intel i7 12 core) and I use reaper on Windows 11, and still opsix demo (v 1.03) has a cpu usage 5 -10 %. Even when nothing is played.
/comparison: it's hard to bring u-he repro-5 above 4% cpu usage in my environment/
My Oppinion bout opsix currently : cpu high, demo crashed one time, sounds uninspiring compared to plogue ops-7 or dexed. Small number of presets in Opsix! GUI is horrible.
Yeah - I like "CLASSIC" dx7 sounds. For me Arturia dx7 could be another dx-style plugin to chose. If there's no change, I simply forget Opsix.
About wavestate demo: for the first glance I see this is different : preset browser is not like a simple list (opsix !) it's a browser. Sounds are interesting / inspiring (Pluginguru a.k.a John 'Skippy' Lehmkuhl presets inside!) and cpu usage is OK. The GUI is crap. not that horrible like opsix, but c'mon it's like the software editor of a hardware. Maybe it's what it is - they did not take the time to make the software itself to be something, it's just a software for their hardware...
I'm a fan of Korg software, but these two are not my fav.
I would not buy Opsix in its current state at black friday, even if highly discounted.
On the other hand Wavestate native is on my list, but the current 149 is too high. I will wait for the upgrade path for the collection owners.
+ going elsewhere to spend > 200 on summer discounts, bye Korg
Downloaded the demos :
opsix use much cpu - is this okay? I have a very strong pc (intel i7 12 core) and I use reaper on Windows 11, and still opsix demo (v 1.03) has a cpu usage 5 -10 %. Even when nothing is played.
/comparison: it's hard to bring u-he repro-5 above 4% cpu usage in my environment/
My Oppinion bout opsix currently : cpu high, demo crashed one time, sounds uninspiring compared to plogue ops-7 or dexed. Small number of presets in Opsix! GUI is horrible.
Yeah - I like "CLASSIC" dx7 sounds. For me Arturia dx7 could be another dx-style plugin to chose. If there's no change, I simply forget Opsix.
About wavestate demo: for the first glance I see this is different : preset browser is not like a simple list (opsix !) it's a browser. Sounds are interesting / inspiring (Pluginguru a.k.a John 'Skippy' Lehmkuhl presets inside!) and cpu usage is OK. The GUI is crap. not that horrible like opsix, but c'mon it's like the software editor of a hardware. Maybe it's what it is - they did not take the time to make the software itself to be something, it's just a software for their hardware...
I'm a fan of Korg software, but these two are not my fav.
I would not buy Opsix in its current state at black friday, even if highly discounted.
On the other hand Wavestate native is on my list, but the current 149 is too high. I will wait for the upgrade path for the collection owners.
+ going elsewhere to spend > 200 on summer discounts, bye Korg
Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/@SoftSynthPortal
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- KVRist
- 423 posts since 3 May, 2004 from UK
They didn't do a black friday discount on wavestate/opsix native last year.
i7-9700, 32GB, 2TB Nvme, Win 11, Live 11 Suite
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- KVRist
- 256 posts since 6 Jul, 2019
I remembered I do have a Korg nanoKEY studio somewhere. It turns out the joystick of Wavestate Native can be controlled without problems with the touchpad in XY mode.DigitalShaman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:44 pmOn a hunch that it would work I just picked up a Korg Kontrol 49 to use with Wavestate Native.
I have some simple function working, but looks like I'm going to have to spend some time configuring. Both Wavestate and controller are new to me so seems a daunting task. Anyone have a template for the Kontrol?
Also the Kaossilator PRO + can be easily configured to be used this way.
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- KVRian
- 919 posts since 4 Jan, 2007
At that time they weren't even released.Rod Staples wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:50 pm They didn't do a black friday discount on wavestate/opsix native last year.
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- KVRist
- 423 posts since 3 May, 2004 from UK
True, sorry I must have been thinking of the last sale, they didn't include wavestate and opsix, I was especially waiting for it.rafa1981 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:49 pmAt that time they weren't even released.Rod Staples wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:50 pm They didn't do a black friday discount on wavestate/opsix native last year.
i7-9700, 32GB, 2TB Nvme, Win 11, Live 11 Suite
- KVRAF
- 35294 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- KVRian
- 716 posts since 23 Dec, 2011
WaveState Native (standalone) / MIDI question. I'm looking to map my controller to WaveState Native, to where I can select Performances from Set Lists. What I have working so far, is creating Set Lists. Sending Program Changes from 0 - 63 go through the 64 slots in the Active Set List. 0 = A1, 1 = A2.. 16 = B1 .. thru 63 = D16 to select different performances. All good (though to be honest... if there is a way of specifically sending Bank Select A-D, I would prefer that). What I dont see.. and am hoping for a little help - is what MIDI CC can I send to choose and make active, a different Set List? The 64 performance slots in the setlist, are quickly eaten up.. as I'm using multiple performances for parts of songs.
Any help or push in the right direction, would be appreciated. Thanks!
Joe
Any help or push in the right direction, would be appreciated. Thanks!
Joe